So, the Government is considering selling off certain rights over the national forestry lands. And predictably, there is great debate about the sell-off. The IMPACT trade union commissioned economist-for-hire Peter Bacon to produce a report examining the effect of the sale on employment. And the proposed sale which is expected to generate between €400m and €600m will be subject to all sorts of scrutiny, questions in the Dail, debate across the media before a dedicated unit of the NTMA called NewERA sells the rights later this year in a transparent manner which will instill confidence that we achieved the best price.
Fine.
But what about the €100bn of state asset disposals in the last three years that have attracted little political or public oversight? €100bn? Yes.
In the Dail this week, the Minister for Finance Michael Noonan has confirmed that Bank of Ireland, Allied Irish Banks and Permanent TSB – three of the six state-guaranteed banks – have “deleveraged” to the tune of €53bn between December 2010 and 30th November 2012. Or to put it another way, they have sold loans, assets and businesses worth €53bn in less than three years. And what about the other banks – Anglo, Irish Nationwide in particular. Minister Noonan didn’t say but at 31 December 2010, Anglo had €30bn of book-value-after-provision loans and loans for resale and derivatives, and by mid 2012, this has shrank to €16bn in the books of IBRC which combines Anglo and Irish Nationwide – in other words, there had been about €14bn of disposals which will no doubt include the €6.6bn US loan book sold in late 2011.
And remember these figures will exclude the majority of transfers to NAMA and it is estimated on here that about €45bn of the €74bn of NAMA acquisitions were completed by November 2010. And NAMA has to date recorded disposals of €6.9bn in asset disposals which, given NAMA paid just 43c in the euro for its loans and property prices have continued to decline in Ireland, might represent €15bn of par-value loans disposals.
These figures will also exclude the €1bn sale of Bank of Ireland Contingent Capital Notes announced on 9th January 2013, they will exclude whatever sale price is achieved for Irish Life, which is apparently set to be sold to Canadian company, Great West-Lifeco for a price close to €1.3bn. The figures exclude the sale of 35% in Bank of Ireland to a group of North American investors. In addition we have cut deals with subordinated bondholders at our banks whereby we paid them €12bn for bonds which had a face value of €26bn.
But no matter how you cut it, the above are state assets and their sale dwarves the €600m harvesting rights at Coillte, the €175m-odd disposal of our stake in Aer Lingus and the €1bn that might be generated from the sale of bits of Bord Gais Energy or the ESB.
And what happens when attempts are made to hold the Government to account? We found out late last year when the Opposition tried to get answers about the sale of €660m of loans in AIB. It was all confidential. How about the two sales of 17% in NAMA? Again it’s confidential. The €1bn of Bank of Ireland CCNs took place in a morning, and Minister Noonan is not telling us if he had advice about the optimum period in which to market the CCNs. Nor is he telling us why Bank of Ireland is absorbing most of the costs of the transaction when on the face of it, the Government is the beneficiary of the sale. He’s certainly not telling us how many tens of millions are being paid to advisers and consultants who provide various services. And he frequently distances himself from the activities of banks in which he is the sole shareholder or where he controls more than 99% of the shares.
A fortnight ago, Fianna Fail asked Minister Noonan to examine a proposal to have an external review of the massive disposals that are happening every single week. Minister Noonan said he wasn’t convinced of the merits of that proposal. This week, Sinn Fein sought information on the disposal of loans at NAMA and the banks. Again, it is all confidential.
The text of the questions and responses are shown below.
Deputy Sean Fleming: To ask the Minister for Finance if he will commit to an external expert examination of the asset disposal programme undertaken by the State supporter banks to ensure that taxpayer interests are being protected; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
Minister for Finance, Michael Noonan: As you will be aware as part of the Central Bank’s Financial Measures Programme 2011 the three PLAR banks are required to deleverage c.€70bn of assets by 31 December 2013. Of this they were required to actively dispose of c.€34bn of assets. Each bank agreed comprehensive deleveraging plans to achieve these deleveraging requirements. The CBI has identified the PCAR haircuts within which the banks are required to deleverage their non-core assets with the over-riding safeguard that fire-sales of assets beyond these haircuts are to be avoided.
Both BOI and AIB are currently on track to achieve their Year-end 2013 deleveraging targets. Ptsb’s programme has been largely postponed pending the EC’s decision on its Restructuring Plan. IBRC is subject to an EC Restructuring Plan which requires it to work out its balance sheet over time, including where possible via disposal of loan books.
To achieve this, each of the banks established dedicated non-core units focused on managing sales processes and are required to report quarterly to the Central Bank which monitors their progress in achieving their deleveraging programmes. Each bank has a deleveraging/transaction committee to govern, monitor and oversee its deleveraging plans. Representatives from my department and the Central Bank attend the meetings of those committees, as non-voting observers. My department has established a Deleveraging Review Committee to oversee and monitor the operation of the institutions’ deleveraging committees and to refer transactions that give rise to financial stability considerations to the Central Bank for joint consideration. Additionally, each quarter, the banks and the Authorities meet with and update the External Partners (IMF/EU/ECB) as to the progress of the banks deleveraging plans including asset sales. There is significant external oversight.
In most instances the banks have also employed expert professional sales advisors to assist in ensuring that the sales processes undertaken maximise sales proceeds. These processes are conducted under strict confidentiality rules to ensure the economic position of the banks, and by extension the taxpayer as majority or part owner, is fully protected. As referred to above, the Deleveraging Committees and the main boards of the banks must approve all material sales conducted by the banks.
To date significant progress has been made. Total deleveraging achieved across government supported banks was €66.5bn as at 30 October 2012. Deleveraging to date has been achieved within average planned assumed discounts. Remaining deleveraging is anticipated to be achieved through run-down and work-out of non-core loan books over time. The asset disposal programmes have largely completed.
The on-going progress in deleveraging and deposit gathering activities has seen BOI make further progress towards improving its Loan to Deposit (LDR) ratio, reducing from 136% at June 2012 to less than 130% in November 2012. Similarly, AIB’s LDR reduced to less than 120% at the end of October (including loans held for sale) from 125% at end of June.
I am not convinced at this juncture in the Programme that value would be obtained for the State/taxpayer in conducting an external examination of the asset disposal programmes given the significant level of oversight to date, significant progress achieved so far and the expectation that the capital absorbed as part of the deleveraging programme will not exceed that assumed in the 2011 Financial Measures Programme undertaken by the CBI.
I will however be kept informed through my officials of on-going progress at each of the banks to ensure that remedial action, if required, can be taken to ensure that the State/taxpayer’s investments are protected.
Deputy Pearse Doherty: To ask the Minister for Finance if he will provide in tabular form, the par value of loans sold by Anglo Irish Bank in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011; the amount realised by territory for the South of Ireland, the North of Ireland, Britain, USA and other international regions; and the number of loan books, portfolios and individual loans to which the sales related..
Deputy Pearse Doherty: To ask the Minister for Finance if he will provide in tabular form, the par value of loans sold by Irish Nationwide Building Society in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011, the amount realised by territory for the South of Ireland, the North of Ireland, Britain, USA and other international regions: and the number of loan books, portfolios and individual loans to which the sales related..
Deputy Pearse Doherty: To ask the Minister for Finance if he will provide in tabular form, the par value of loans sold by Irish Bank Resolution Corporation in 2011 and 2012, the amount realised by territory for the South of Ireland, the North of Ireland, Britain, USA and other international regions: and the number of loan books, portfolios and individual loans to which the sales related..
Deputy Pearse Doherty: To ask the Minister for Finance in tabular form, the par value of loans sold by Bank of Ireland in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012, the amount realised by territory for the South of Ireland, the North of Ireland, Britain, USA and other international regions and the number of loan books; portfolios and individual loans to which the sales related..
Deputy Pearse Doherty: To ask the Minister for Finance if he will provide in tabular form, the par value of loans sold by Allied Irish Banks in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012, the amount realised by territory for the South of Ireland, the North of Ireland, Britain, USA and other international regions; and the number of loan books, portfolios and individual loans to which the sales related..
Deputy Pearse Doherty: To ask the Minister for Finance in tabular form, the par value of loans sold by the Educational Building Society in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012, the amount realised by territory for the South of Ireland, the North of Ireland, Britain, USA and other international regions; and the number of loan books, portfolios and individual loans to which the sales related..
Deputy Pearse Doherty: To ask the Minister for Finance if he will provide in tabular form, the par value of loans sold by Permanent TSB in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012, the amount realised by territory for the South of Ireland, the North of Ireland, Britain, USA and other international regions; and the number of loan books, portfolios and individual loans to which the sales related..
Deputy Pearse Doherty: To ask the Minister for Finance if he will provide in tabular form, the par value of loans sold by the National Asset Management Agency in 2010, 2011 and 2012, the original covered bank to have provided the loan; the amount realised by territory for the South of Ireland, the North of Ireland, Britain, USA and other international regions; and the number of loan books, portfolios and individual loans to which the sales related.
Minister for Finance, Michael Noonan: I propose to take Questions 227, 228, 229, 230, 231, 232, 233 and 234 together.
The sale of loan portfolios is a commercial matter for the management and the Board of the Institutions. I have a limited role in this function.
The sales prices for various portfolios and individual loans are a matter of confidentiality between the parties. It is normal course of practice that sales processes are conducted under appropriate confidentiality constraints in order to protect the interests of all parties.
It is the responsibility of the Board of Directors of each institution to ensure that adequate and appropriate disclosures are provided regarding financial position and performance. Therefore, such disclosures are provided through the financial statements of each institution in the context of the needs of those users and the particular business activities and risk exposures of the Institutions. To this end, the institutions provide detailed disclosures in their Annual Reports, trading statements, interim management reports, press releases and Pillar III regulatory return disclosures. The Institutions have also, where applicable as part of their investor relations programmes and Stock exchange requirements, produced detailed loan sale disclosures to which the deputy may wish to refer.
In particular, as relates to NAMA, the disclosure of additional information other than what is publically available would contravene Section 99 and 202 of the NAMA Act and adversely affect the competitive process and the agency’s objective of achieving the best outcome for the taxpayer.
Deleveraging of the Banking system has progressed well. Deleveraging of €53.1bn has been achieved by Allied Irish Banks (AIB), Bank of Ireland (BOI) and Permanent TSB from 31 December 2010 to 30 November 2012. Individual losses on loans have not been disclosed by the banks due to commercial sensitivities and confidentiality of information, however the Pillar Banks where disposals have been concentrated, have disclosed that overall cumulative discounts incurred have been within PCAR assumed discounts. From a capital perspective, the loss incurred on the divestment of these assets is broadly offset by a reduction in the level of risk weighted assets.
The on-going progress in deleveraging and deposit gathering activities has seen BOI make further progress towards improving its Loan to Deposit (LDR) ratio, reducing from 136% at June 2012 to less than 130% in November 2012. Similarly, AIB’s LDR reduced to less than 120% at the end of October (including loans held for sale) from 125% at end of June.
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