[CORRECTION: This morning’s release of arrears and repossession data from the Central Bank contained a footnote which referred to changes to previous quarters’ data due to “reclassification”. The footnote was overlooked on here and the figures below have now been updated to reflect the previous quarters’ data published by the CBI. The adjustments extended to overall mortgage numbers, and it would be interesting to see how that “reclassification” came about. The original release for Q2,2012 is here.
The blog has also received the latest figures from the UK’s Council of Mortgage Lenders – arrears are in this Excel spreadsheet and repossessions are in this Excel spreadsheet. The latest annual numbers are little changed to previous numbers.
The reclassified figures from the Central Bank show that the pace of increase in mortgage arrears over 90 days have decreased slightly. In Q2, 2012 the increase from Q1, 2012 was 7.1% whereas the increase from Q2, 2012 to Q3,2012 is slightly less at 6.3%. In Q2,2012 an extra 5,356 mortgage accounts fell into arrears of over 90 days and that reduced very slightly to an extra 5,111 mortgage accounts in arrears in Q3,2012.
The revised figures show that the number of mortgage accounts did fall in Q3,2012 by 3,000. This followed a revised increase in mortgage accounts in Q2,2012 of 1,000 which was the first increase since records began in Q3,2009.
Contrary to what the Irish Bank Federation claims in its press release today, the number of sub-90 days arrears accounts has actually increased from 47,162 in Q2,2012 to 49,482 in Q3,2012. The IBF says there has been an “underlying decline” which is wrong.
Overall, the figures today show that all accounts in arrears are up 7,431 in Q3,2012 compared with an increase of 5,256 in Q2,2012 and on both an absolute and relative basis, the pace of deterioration has increased.
Here are the revised figures – click to ENLARGE
Here are the revised Ireland and UK figures
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[NOTICE: The Central Bank has this morning published Q3,2012 data but it has also adjusted previous quarters’ data and this is now being checked with the Bank. For example, the Q2,2012 press release from the Bank is here, but this morning’s data shows significantly different data for Q2,2012]
This morning, the Central Bank of Ireland has published its quarterly series of arrears and repossession statistics for both owner-occupied homes and for the first time, Buy to Let mortgages. The figures are available not available from the Central Bank’s website yet, but the Irish Times seems to have had an advance copy to prepare this report. Below is the historical position on owner-occupier mortgage accounts – click to ENLARGE.
The above shows that the slowing down in the rate of new arrears has reversed and mortgage arrears are now growing at their fastest rate since the end of 2011. The only positive detail is the number of mortgage accounts has increased for the first time since records began in Q3,2009.
In addition to arrears over 90 days, some 43,742 accounts have been “restructured” – these may be paying interest only or smaller-than-contracted sums or in some cases, may not be repaying anything whatsoever.
Today’s figures show that 17% of owner-occupier mortgage accounts are in arrears over 90 days or have been restructured. Some 17,000 homes in Ireland also receive welfare payments in the form of mortgage interest supplement. It is not clear if any of these payments are to mortgage accounts that are in arrears or restructured. A further 49,482 mortgage accounts were in arrears of less than 90 days at the end of September 2012, but such arrears can oftentimes be cleared. But on the face of it, up to 26% of Irish owner-occupier mortgage accounts are in arrears, have been restructured or are in receipt of Government aid.
The figures today show that 154 properties were repossessed in Q3,2012 which is in line with previous months and means that our repossession level remains at a very low level compared to international standards, for example in the US and the UK.
Figures for Buy to Let mortgages today reveal that one in six mortgages is in arrears of more than 90 days. There are 149,592 BTL mortgages, of which 26,779 or 17.9% are in arrears of more than 90 days. There has been a similar rate of deterioration in these accounts since Q2, 2012 as owner occupier accounts.
The contrast between the treatment of mortgages in Ireland and our closest neighbour, the UK, is stark. Not only are arrears per 100,000 accounts more than five times the level of our neighbour but repossessions per 100,000 accounts is one quarter of our neighbour’s rate. You are 24 times more likely to have your home repossessed in the UK if your mortgage falls into arrears than in Ireland.
There has been little progress with dealing with the mortgage crisis, and it remains to be seen if the Personal Insolvency Bill which should be passed into law before Christmas (2012) will benefit home-owners. It has been over a year since An Taoiseach responded to President Clinton’s speech at the Global Irish Forum in Dublin Castle where Bill Clinton identified the mortgage crisis as the greatest economic challenge facing this State.
UPDATE: 13th December, 2012. The Central Bank has finally published the arrears information which was due at 11am and which was circulated or leaked to media before 11am judging by the lengthy report by Pamela Newenham in the Irish Times at 11.01am.
Just in case people think the UK and the US are heartless capitalists when it comes to foreclosures, it may be useful to throw some German figures in to the pot.
These are from two seasoned German RMBS transactions. Admittedly they are among the poorer performing transactions. Note: in order to assign a loss to these transactions the property must be disposed of through a foreclosure auction process. More details and performance reports are available here: http://www.kfw.de/kfw/en/KfW_Group/Asset_Securitisation/KfWs_Securitisation_Platforms/PROVIDE/Active_transactions/index.jsp
Case 1: Provide Gems 2002-1:
Initial Number of mortgages in pool: 28,322
Total number of realized loss loans: 638
Loss rate (based on loan count): 2.25%
Case 2: Provide VR 2002-1:
Initial Number of mortgages in pool: 20,876
Total number of realized loss loans: 503
Loss rate (based on loan count): 2.41%
(there’s an additional 208 loans foreclosed without loss)
It’s reasonable to argue that these 49k loans aren’t representative of the German market, but it does demonstrate the willingness to enforce contracts. WRT these transactions, the numbers of losses will continue to increase.
From irishtimes:
“The Irish Banking Federation noted the Irish level of repossession remains very low by international standards; currently standing at 20 per 100,000 mortgages compared to 72 per 100,000 in the UK.”
Seems to contradict analysis above.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1213/breaking16.html
From the same article:
‘By value, the amount of mortgage debt in arrears of 90 days or more totalled €16.8 billion or 15.1 per cent of the €111.2 billion owing on Irish residential mortgages, while the outstanding balance on buy-to-let mortgage accounts in arrears of more than 90 days was €7.9 billion at end-September, equivalent to 25.5 per cent of the total outstanding balance on all BTL mortgages’
Am I reading that right? €24.7 billion is the total value of mortgages in arrears by 90 days or more. Of course we’d need to know what porportion of this is owed to Irish banks and what percentage can we expect to be repaid?
Though considering the Irish banks are worth 8-10 billion. One would have to come to the conclusion that the banks are skating ever closer to another bailout Bailout, the 4th?
We know direct re-capatilization of banks by the ESM won’t be allowed until 2014, though there is a provision to allow it on a case by case basis, as long as all member states agree. Given this, it seems it’s strongly in offical Irelands interest not to allow losses to be realised until then? I.e until they can be gauaranteed such losses will be someone elses problem.
Or am I missing something?
Well Comical Mickey was right about one thing…
Continuing to take off like a rocket…
http://www.japlandic.com/2012/12/continuing-to-take-off-like-rocket.html
In reality repo’s were very very low,voluntary surrender is worthy of further examination,first thing here,only had quick scan.
” A total of 154 properties were taken into possession by lenders during the quarter, of which 47 were repossessed on foot of a Court Order, while the remaining 107 were voluntarily surrendered or abandoned.”
Good report by the Central Bank,horrific numbers but at least they focusing minds.
Above numbers for PDH,caffeine had not kicked in.
Corresponding for B to L
” A total of 74 properties were taken into possession by lenders during the quarter, of which 28 were repossessed on foot of a Court Order, while the remaining 46 were voluntarily surrendered or abandoned.”
Rough numbers but in each category almost twice as many borrowers voluntarily hand back the keys…perhaps there should be more incentives here.
Cash for keys !
On the Week in Politics (July 2012) programme: There are over “65,000 (of the 96K on the housing list), in private-rented, on (rent) supplements”; and if they are moved to Social housing “the danger is that they (the owners of investments) start to default on their mortgage and B to L becomes a problem”.
Furthermore it was stated: ‘The State must keep paying rental supplement “or risk even more mortgage defaults” as (and this is the good bit) : “you have to have people to occupy those houses”.
And so, for 65K, B to L investors; the collareral is?:….. people.
But I believe, that: the Govt. are doing their level best to give ‘second houses’ away. But woe-be-tide any giving of a ‘first’ house to people who have nothing.
In 2010: E516.8M (97,260 recipients) was spent on Rent Supplement.
In 2011: E502.6M* (96,803 recipients) was spent on Rent Supplement.
*Provisional Outturn at Year end 2011.
Figs. – Dept.of Soc.Welf., Sligo.
And though (above) it ‘seems’ the rent supplement decreased; the corresponding reason may be: that the RAS scheme (loc. authorities acting as agents for investors) has increased. In one county (Wr’frd) the RAS
amounts are:
2007: Euro 83,386.67 (thousands)
2008: Euro 326,556.64 ”
2009: Euro 760,974.70 ”
2010: Euro 1,101,189.06 (million)
2011: Euro 1,598,383.12 ”
That is a huge increase, in one small county. This ‘help-the-investor’ RAS
scheme is issued through the Local Authorities; and so make the rent supplement scheme seem less.
In case there is any confusion,I am no apologist for the B to L crowd,but you are where you are.Fast track the legal change and let the fun and games begin…start with B to L….no issues here with foreclosing/repo’s in that category nor a modicum of sympathy.
There are ‘new’ numbers available,NWL flagged it need have a look.
The banks will be taking back the B to L properties, wrapping them up as a Real Estate Investment Trusts (the answer to why the REITs are being set-up in law.) and flogging them on the markets. Meanwhile, they’ll be chasing the original owners for the guarantees and will have their buddies collecting the rents with handsome “management” fees being extracted from both. All with the backing of the Gov’t.
@BGeed you need critical mass to do a REIT, minimum of say 100 million in assets,otherwise not enough FEE’s in floating it and managing it.Single family resi not really that suitable,in the resi space Kennedy Wilson is accumulating the type of portfolio that might work.
REIT’s are not a bad thing,but is Joe Public ready and willing to take a ‘punt’ again on Real Estate,its for smaller investors/speculators!
One significant issue will be any ‘claw backs’ on tax reliefs…not sure is a ‘surrender’ or repo a deemed ‘sale’ ?
“A sale of a tax relieved property (s.23/s.50 properties and industrial buildings) within its “tax life” could result in a claw-back of tax relief.”
http://www.accountingnet.ie/taxation_budget/Finance_Act_2012_-_Property_Investment.php
Click to access Property-Based-Reliefs-June-2011.pdf
john gallaher–
Sounds like the banks will get to € 100 million is a pretty big hurry. I reckon that the REIT will not even be a sale…the banks will keep the title, make a healthy profit on floating the REIT and then will re-sell the property in 10 years time when a new developer wants to knock it down. Back to the bad old days in a big hurry.
@BGeed apparently its personal insolvency first,then close that legal loophole on repo’s.With property taxes coming in too,assume they rank first ahead of the mortgage.The banks will have to pay any arrears there prior to foreclosing….some form of amnesty has been suggested before for B to L.
Say a 90 day window,hand back the keys and walk away….. all bets off after that window closes.
This product type is not that suitable but who knows its ‘Ireland’…no rational reason for b to l owners not to be subject to foreclosure,after an amnesty.
One REIT that ‘may’ work would be a hotel one….hello NAMA !
http://seekingalpha.com/article/965961-hotel-reits-look-promising-with-strong-industry-fundamentals
We need retrospective non-recourse mortgages to be introduced in this country. Putting 135,000 households into bankruptcy/PIAs is not going to work.
“Jingle mail” is the way forward, and the way out of a lot of trouble ahead.