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2011 annual reports for Irish banks reveal potentially catastrophic losses and additional bailouts requirements

June 11, 2012 by namawinelake

So far Ireland has spent €67.8bn bailing out the banks, comprising €62.8bn in cash and promissory notes directly injected into the banks, and a further €5bn gifted to the banks by NAMA in state-aid and for which we are now on the hook if property prices don’t recover. In a country whose GDP was €156bn in 2011, this represents 43% of GDP. I wonder how the Spanish would feel if they were told now that this was the type of debt they will need shoulder to rescue their banks, rather than the tiddly 10% of GDP implied by the €100bn bailout announced over the weekend? But as bad as Ireland’s bailout costs are so far, they could be set to grow even more. We know about the extra €4bn which the deputy governor the Central Bank of Ireland announced a fortnight ago, which will be required in a couple of years to bolster capital levels. But what about future losses at the banks?

The 2011 annual reports for Bank of Ireland, AIB/EBS and Irish Life reveal the scale of losses that will be in store if our economy doesn’t turn around and grow. Each of these three financial institutions published two valuations for their loan-books – a “carrying value” which is what is reported in the accounts and represents the book value of the loans less a convoluted provision for impairments and a “fair value” which represents what the loans are worth today if they were called in and the underlying asset was used to pay off the loan. Here is the summary of the loan books in 2011 which show that the overall difference between “carrying value” and “fair value” for these three institutions is an almighty €38bn which if it materialised would wipe out the entire capital base and need nearly €20bn in additional capital to boot, just to keep banks solvent. To give them adequate capital buffers might involve a further €20bn. So €40bn, all told on top of the €72bn current and projected cost.

 

And take a look at the loan books the previous year in 2010.

 

There has been a major deterioration in the “fair value” and the gap between the “carrying value” and the “fair value” which is what you would expect when the economy is still in recession, where residential property fell by 16%-plus in the past year and commercial property fell by 10%-plus, and where unemployment is now at a current-crisis record of 14.8%. But will fortunes swing around and will we grow to such an extent that the “carrying values” can be realised for these banks’ loans.

Who knows, but we do project anaemic growth in 2012 and 2013. We do expect unemployment to remain above 11% during the next three years. We will be introducing new personal insolvency legislation which should provide a practical means for those in impossible financial situations to find some closure. What about property prices? It seems on here the consensus is that prices will drop another 20% on residential to bring the total decline from 50% to 60% – 20% of 50% is 10% and 50% plus 10% is 60%. Commercial property is still declining despite the bumper giveaway budget in December 2011, and in general there is still vast oversupply. Personal loans are likely to come under pressure with planned budget adjustments of €8.6bn between 2013-2015 which will average €5,000 per household in 2015 alone, after €4,000 in 2014 and €2,000 in 2013.

Is there a cap on what this State will spend on bailing out its banks? Is it 50% of GDP as we are presently approaching or 100% of GDP, or in absolute terms is it €72bn or €100bn or what? The Spanish have just loaded 10% of GDP onto their national debt to deal with the banks. Would they accept anything like the burden this country has shouldered and which may significantly increase?

Weren’t the 2011 stress tests supposed to put an end to this drip-drip of bad news on the banks, which has entailed a journey from “cheapest bailout in the world” to what is beginning to look like “most expensive bank bailout in the world”? Yes, the stress tests were supposed to draw a line under the banks and their prospective losses, but the trouble is the economy is continuing to list, and our export markets are all looking shaky. We haven’t yet reached the depths in property prices projected in the stress tests, but we are on the eve of getting personal insolvency legislation which may crystallise losses for the banks as people use new arrangements. Last year’s stress tests may need to be revisited in a few months.

Lastly, neither IBRC nor NAMA provides “fair values” in their accounts for its loans at present. So we could expect the above figures, which are in themselves nightmarish, to grow further if these two other 100% state-owned institutions were to be included.

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  1. on June 11, 2012 at 10:22 am OMF

    So far Ireland has spent €67.8bn bailing out the banks,

    I would say it’s €93 billion, but I was trained in arithmetic, not accountancy.

    Here is the summary of the loan books in 2011 which show that the overall difference between “carrying value” and “fair value” for these three institutions

    The most dismaying of these figures is surely Bank of Ireland. They were supposed to be in better shape than AIB and ILP both, but theirs is the largest difference despite being the smaller than AIB.

    An optimist might be inclined to think that Bank of Ireland were displaying their usual cunning and have exaggerated these figures for some ulterior benefit. As a pessimist, I am beginning to doubt if BoI is really out of the woods or whether they have simply been getting more “creative”.

    Is there a cap on what this State will spend on bailing out its banks?

    The only cap on spending is the salary cap that would have to be imposed on decision makers when they go to far with the public finances. As long as they don’t pass that, the bailouts will continue until morale improves.

    Weren’t the 2011 stress tests supposed to put an end to this drip-drip of bad news on the banks….
    Last year’s stress tests may need to be revisited in a few months.

    Indeed. By now no-one can have failed to notice the government’s drumming up of public support for the Credit Unions? The purpose is clear.

    The banks will again be recapitalised alongside the credit unions, probably later this year. One will be tied to the other, so that the public will have no choice but to accept another banker’s bonus bailout in order to save their precious local credit union. Yet more financial blackmail; but with a nation as terrified as the Irish Yes-men, is the blackmailer really the one to blame?


    • on June 11, 2012 at 10:30 am namawinelake

      @OMF, to get to your €93bn, you assume that the value of the NAMA loans bought for €30bn is NIL. According to the CAG, the state-aid element on NAMA’s purchases (or at least on €27bn of the €32bn so far analysed) was €5bn.

      I don’t think that even the pessimists are suggesting NAMA will lose €30bn, but as things stand today it is nursing €5bn losses in terms of state-aid paid to the banks.


  2. on June 11, 2012 at 10:51 am jr

    very well pointed out.


  3. on June 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm who_shot_the_tiger

    @NWL, Interesting figures… without the personal loans, which when Paddy Public takes advantage of the new insolvency legislation will increase the loss still further.

    The curiosity for me is the wide difference in the Irish Life gap and that of AIB and BoI. Proportionately, Irish Life has allowed twice the amount the others have. It’s an anomaly that needs an explanation. Otherwise it would indicate that our two “pillar” banks remain in denial.


  4. on June 11, 2012 at 1:01 pm FT Alphaville » Irish banks, future losses and awkward timing

    […] ever worthy Nama Wine Lake did some good work and peered at the 2011 financial reports for Ireland’s major banks. The […]


  5. on June 11, 2012 at 1:13 pm christy

    The redundancy packages at the banks look even more monstrous given that it looks like they are STILL insolvent

    Why o why are we giving state money in these circumstances…


  6. on June 11, 2012 at 1:51 pm brianmlucey

    Reblogged this on Brian M. Lucey.


  7. on June 11, 2012 at 2:20 pm Jake Watts

    The euphoria from the Spanish “solution” (according to Prime Minister Rajoy) has lasted a total of single digit hours. The premium of risk is back at 505 and the ten year at 6%. Italy is now in the vortex as well. This reminds me of then President Bush’s after landing on the aircraft carrier comment that the Iraqi War was “mission accomplished”. Best I know, nine years later, and it is still going.

    So, if the Spanish banking system is going to require what looks like billions and billions more, to quote Carl Sagan, what might be chances for the Irish?


  8. on June 11, 2012 at 2:24 pm who_shot_the_tiger

    There are only two options. Break up the euro or print trillions.


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  10. on June 11, 2012 at 2:44 pm jr

    from AIB end of year conference call…

    OPERATOR: And our next question comes from Vincent Cheung from Autonomous. Please go ahead with your question, your line is now open.

    VINCENT CHEUNG: Hi. Good morning. I may have missed this, but could you talk about asset quality trends year to date, please?
    And then my other question is, can you give me your thoughts on the Irish Insolvency Law please? Thanks.

    DAVID DUFFY: … With regards to the Irish insolvency laws, we have a pretty neutral view on that. We think that it’s very early at this stage to understand what the impact would be. I think it’s not well understood across the public domain yet and frankly we think it is something which is very much a last resort territory. And in our dialogue with individuals in the home loan territory, that’s not a strong preference on any scale. What people want to do and the same as our strategy, is stay in their homes and work with us to try and resolve the situations. We’re not seeing a large number of people wanting to enter that territory, which has fairly serious consequences over the long term.

    presumably ‘fair value’ or ‘mark to market’ hasn’t taken any insolvency legislation into account within AIB… yet.

    but then again, according to the CEO’s ‘loan & asset quality’ review in the 2011 accounts…
    ‘Credit quality continued to deteriorate throughout the
    year across all our portfolios, most notably in the property
    and residential mortgage sectors, and is a key area of
    attention for the AIB Board and senior management.’


  11. on June 11, 2012 at 3:26 pm who_shot_the_tiger

    In John Gallaher’s neck of the woods having a beer, disturbed only by the New York hookers plying their trade at the hotel bar. It got me to thinking about lovebugs and their similarity to banks and developers in Ireland.

    Like the bankers and developers in Ireland, during their short life in the southern states of the USA, the lovebugs live on nectar and in their initial phase are relatively harmless – other than the damage their larvae causes to the environment. As the lovebugs spread themselves around the Gulf Coast, first to Texas, then Louisiana, then further eastward, the initial populations grew so excessive that they caused some local concern.

    Today, drive along any southern highway in Texas, Florida or Louisiana in late May or September and you will encounter clouds of lovebugs 20 or more miles wide joined together in a fatal embrace. Unable to decouple and oblivious to the world around them, they die en masse on windshields, hoods, and the radiator grills of the vehicles traveling through them. The accumulation of dead coupled lovebugs on cars makes it impossible for the drivers, alien to this environment, to see ahead. The engine becomes clogged and the paintwork becomes pitted and etched by the decaying fatty residue covering the automobile. The residue is almost impossible to remove and eats away at the very fabric of the car body. The bugs, that folklore suggests were the result of a genetic experiment gone awry, are extremely acidic and toxic. So acidic, in fact, that the birds, their normal predators won’t go near them.

    Makes you wonder why our politicians and NAMA could not have had a bird’s brain between them and left the developers and bankers alone in their mutual love dance, instead of turning the whole country into a toxic, undrivable vehicle.


  12. on June 11, 2012 at 4:01 pm Ahura M

    How accurate do you reckon the quoted “fair values” are? For example, what is the fair value of NAMA bonds? and that’s without getting into the nitty gritty of loan books.

    re: IE.ie on Spanish property prices – many don’t buy the official stats. This blog has some good articles on prices from time to time.

    http://www.spanishpropertyinsight.com/buff/2012/04/30/tecnocasa-housing-market-report-say-prices-down-41pc-since-peak/


  13. on June 11, 2012 at 6:23 pm bubblesandbusts

    Great observation. The current Spanish bailout is another example of the EU providing too small a sum to cover even current losses, let alone future ones. The banking shortfalls will continue to increase over the next several years since growth prospects remain weak and seem unlikely to improve. We still await the day to see which country decides it has had enough first.


  14. on June 11, 2012 at 6:32 pm Anonymous

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  15. on June 12, 2012 at 10:51 am Ahura M

    This is a bit off topic, but it does relate to possible losses from mortgages. It’s from a Simon Carswell piece in the Irish Times last week and didn’t see it picked up anywhere. The numbers are gobsmacking:

    “About half of the Irish mortgages listed as “impaired” by AIB at the end of last year were advanced between 2005 and 2007, the peak years of the property boom. In value terms, that rises to 58 per cent of those mortgages.

    At Bank of Ireland, 45 per cent of Irish residential mortgages classified as either 90 days or more in arrears or impaired were advanced between 2005 and 2007. The figure is 67 per cent in terms of value of mortgages.”
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2012/0606/1224317368790.html#

    (note: the base seems to be ‘of all arrears’ not ‘of all mortgages originated during this period’.)


  16. on June 13, 2012 at 10:04 am Diarmuid O'Flynn

    Been saying for some time now that the Irish banks would need another round of recapitalisation, and it won’t be just €4bn either. Part of the reason why is shown in this blog,

    http://bondwatchireland.blogspot.ie/2012/06/dirty-dozen-we-june-17th-2012.html

    part of the reason why is the mortgage problem.

    Why do we in Ballyhea and Charleville still march alone??? This is madness, national economic suicide.

    As usual, great job NWL.


  17. on June 13, 2012 at 2:25 pm 2Pack

    @NWL. Your forgot €14bn.

    “So far Ireland has spent €67.8bn bailing out the banks, comprising €62.8bn in cash and promissory notes directly injected into the banks, and a further €5bn gifted to the banks by NAMA in state-aid and for which we are now on the hook if property prices don’t recover. ”

    http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2011/02/09/483221/where-did-irelands-secret-liquidity-go/

    “Irish banks issued around €14bn of government-guaranteed floating-rate notes on January 25 and 26, according to BarCap. As far as we can make out, Bank of Ireland issued most of these January 26 FRNs (from the list below, about €9.5bn):

    These FRNs were then rolled by ‘Irish banks’ (or other banks which bought the notes off them) into two open market operations by the European Central Bank — either the three-month Longer-term refinancing operation (LTRO) opened on January 26, or a main refinancing operation (MRO) that settled on February 2.

    The result — on the days the notes were issued, ELA lending fell by a proportionate amount (‘other assets’ in the Eurosystem central banks’ financial accounts fell €13bn)
    “


    • on June 13, 2012 at 2:30 pm namawinelake

      @2Pack, once you start adding in guarantees, you will easily get into the hundreds of billions of euros. The State has guaranteed the NAMA bonds – about €29bn of them extant. It has guarantees in place with the covered banks, for which it receives fees, but theoretically those guarantees could be costly.

      The €67.8bn excludes all such guarantees and the hope is that they are not called on.

      But if the Government aims to keep BofI, AIB/EBS and ILP afloat, the additional potential losses above may become actual costs.


  18. on June 13, 2012 at 3:20 pm Peter Pipesmoker

    We are getting near the tipping Point ! The Banks are now heading towards a new insolvency bailout this time caused by the Mortgage Crisis beginning to Accelerate . The Government is still shipping far too much debt onto the Sovereign Debt Account ( Up to €131Billion & not including the Bank Debt ) and Thanks to the Unpatriotic self centered farmers and Civil Servant insiders who voted for the fiscal Compact facing down the barrel of an €11 Billion Contribution to the ESM fund which will mostly be first going to the countries of Spain Cyprus and probably Portugal or Italy as well . Who knows maybe if Greece elects Syriza or even New Democracy they might squeeze a few more Bob out of the ESM to tie them over and remain in the Euro for a little while longer before the finally default leaving nothing but a Bill for Ireland’s contribution of €11 Billion ( who will loan us the money this time ? ) to the ESM Insurance Policy that we never got to avail of . I’d say a request to the Germans to fill the pot again will be met with a stony silence . At that point after all the huffing and puffing during the Referendum we will be facing default or a Euro Exit or savage Austerity pretty much instantly . Either way the Mortgages will start bringing the Banks down with them as a result of any of the 3 above options . Bill Clinton actually spotted this sooner than most and mentioned it as the really big problem the country was facing . In truth there is no growth or Croke Park etc. scenario that will stave off this reality .So the Banks and the people will no longer be able to rely on the Sovereign to save them . There will be no borrowing from the international money markets ever again for the Country while Ireland remains in the Euro as they the Markets have recognised that Ireland is running out of ability to repay and there doesn’t appear to be any growth story arriving over the hill either . Possibly the Government should try and set up some sort of state bank going to get credit into the Economy but all of that is getting to late in the day relative to the speed of the sovereign Debt crisis to get off the ground in a slow motion country like Ireland . In the end the EU will regret they forgot about Ireland and didn’t do more on the Anglo Promissory Notes and stuff while the situation was still touch and go rather than getting to this sort of Last Days of Saigon circa 1975 moment where there will probably be chaos and Bank Runs as they try to avoid the coming invasion Tsunami . There may still be an appearance of control within Government Hands , they may even believe that themselves , but the reality is they are about to lose Control and become at the mercy of events . Yours Sincerely Peter Pipesmoker .



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