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Ten questions Spain needs ask itself before embarking on the NAMA route

May 29, 2012 by namawinelake

“The perception of Irelandexternally is very positive. We have taken the right decisions and are moving in the right direction. We would not be in the position we are in right now if we had not gone down the NAMA road” NAMA chairman Frank Daly speaking to the Financial Times about the application of a NAMA-type solution toSpain’s banking woes

When Ray Kroc was opening his first franchised McDonald’s fast food store in 1955, how could he have imagined that it would grow to over 30,000 stores today. The simple format of basic tasty food worked worldwide and backed up by sound management, the company is one of the most successful in the world. Last night as I read NAMA chairman Frank Daly’s comments provided to the Financial Times about the prospect of Spain adopting a NAMA-type model to sort out its banks, there was a momentary flash of Ireland starting a new service industry which could be franchised and exported across the globe. And there might be something in that, but first of all Spain will need to decide if the NAMA model is suitable for its intensifying problems.

The recent background to Spain’s problems is that its general economic difficulties with deficit, economic growth and unemployment are being exacerbated by problems in its banking system, seemingly caused by losses on loans to the property sector. There is a blogpost on here which examines Spain’s property and banking sectors and concluded that the country appears to have a similar profile to Ireland, but unlike Ireland its property market hasn’t been resolving itself with price declines of just over 20% compared with 50% here, despite similar levels of over-construction and the conclusion was that its banks may be sitting on losses akin to those uncovered in Irish banks, losses which if shouldered by the Spanish people would lead to the Spanish debt:GDP equalling that of Italy, Portugal, Ireland – around 120%.

This blogpost sets out 10 questions that Spain might ask itself before adopting a NAMA-type solution to its banking problems.

(1) What banks need to be NAMAed? Spain has a highly developed banking system with international, national and regional banks. If the Spanish government is to take control of certain banks, it makes sense to have the relevant assets of all of those banks transferred to NAMA. In Ireland we have NAMA with a current portfolio value of just over €25bn competing with IBRC, a 100% state-owned bank with €17bn of loan assets which is also running down its loan book in the same time frame as NAMA. So, in addition to duplication of effort, we have competition for sales and resources between state-owned agencies, which in turn compete with banks outside the State’s control eg Ulster Bank, Bank of Scotland (Ireland)

(2) How big are the losses in the banks? In Ireland there was an initial assumption that the losses on property lending were only 30% whereas in fact, it turns out that they were more than 60% – NAMA paid 43c in the euro for loans, but a recent report by the Comptroller and Auditor General claims NAMA overpaid by 20%. If the losses are too great in any individual bank, then NAMA may not be suitable for that bank.

(3) What is the limit of losses that can be shouldered by the nation?Ireland has so far shouldered €63bn to bailout our banks which represents 40% of our GDP. In addition we found out last week that NAMA had provided €5bn of state-aid to the banks, so the true cumulative current cost of our bank bailout is €68bn and if the mortgage crisis explodes or deleveraging proves more difficult than expected, then that may well grow. So Ireland’s debt:GDP of 120% in 2012 is one third due to bank debt. Many economists believe this debt is unsustainable and will need be restructured or defaulted on. Spain has debt:GDP of  over 70% but that is forecast to rise to over 80% this year. If it takes on the same proportional amount of debt as Ireland did to rescue its banks, its debt could balloon to 120%. If Ireland had known that its 25% debt:GDP in 2007 would balloon to 120% in 2013, then it is likely that as a society, other solutions would have been pursued.

(4) What activity are the losses associated with? In the UK they had losses with banks investing in US subprime mortgages. In Ireland we had banks over-lending to various domestic property sectors. NAMA is suitable where is there is uncertainty or doubt over the value of problem assets. For example if the problem was exposure to sovereign debt, then that should be quite easy to calculate, but with property lending, the value of the loan may be a direct function of the present value of the property and that can be difficult to ascertain and unless there is a NAMA process, potential investors and lenders may be deterred from working with banks whose assets have doubtful value. Also it will be no good to deploy a NAMA scheme to a small subset of assets which are of doubtful value. NAMA needs to be part of a campaign which ensures banks are substantially relieved of doubtful assets and are recapitalised to an extent that they act to support the economy.

(5) How competitive is your legal, accounting, insolvency and property professional services? NAMA is spending a fortune on Irish professional services which are amongst the most expensive in Europe. NAMA’s costs are expected to be €1.4bn over its lifetime which represents less than 5% of the assets it initially acquired.

(6) Are prices still falling, when will the bottom be reached and what will the declines have been at that stage? In Ireland’s case it was hoped that late 2009 would have been the bottom of the property cycles and that NAMA could easily nurse distressed lending and the underlying property for a short period before disposing of these assets at prices above what had been paid. Yield analysis was notoriously deployed to demonstrate that the Irish property markets were at, or were close to, the bottom. As it happened, yield analysis was inappropriate to an economy in extreme distress, and since late 2009, both residential and commercial property has declined by 20%-plus. The consensus is that we are a year off the bottom for residential property and possibly less for commercial property. But this means that 2.5 years into NAMA’s life, the Agency is nursing huge losses and the Comptroller and Auditor General said last week that it would be a challenge for NAMA to break-even by 2020. NAMA’s ultimate loss will be shouldered by the nation, so that has to be taken into account when deciding how much is too much debt.

(7) Will the valuation process be credible? Here’s where there might be a franchising opportunity for NAMA. Its valuation process was approved by the European Commission which has also approved the detail of one third of NAMA’s acquisitions. Without intending any disrespect to the Greek people generally, I don’t think there would be a lot of trust in a Greek NAMA because of the perception of political corruption. What about a Spanish NAMA?

(8) Will the political structures allow NAMA to operate independently? If NAMA can’t place trustworthy values on the assets it acquires or is prevented from acting naturally to manage its assets, then you risk exacerbating distortions which can have unhealthy economic effects eg undermining property transactions. Of politicians get to own or control substantial amounts of assets, then experience tells us that we don’t always get corruption-free outcomes.

(9) Will the assets acquired by NAMA lead to unhealthy distortion in the marketplace? In Ireland, NAMA has acquired €6-7bn of commercial property lending in a market which was only worth €0.5bn in 2011. So NAMA has a dominant position in that market. The Agency has seemingly decided to generally hold its Irish commercial assets, which means the market is awaiting an artificially-removed-from-the-market loanbook to come back onto the market, and that anticipation encourages a stagnation of the market with expectations of price drops when supply increases.

(10) How robust is your legal system? In Irelandthere have been three challenges to the NAMA legislation, the first taken by developer Paddy McKillen was partly successful in Ireland’s Supreme Court and practically meant that NAMA did not acquire Paddy’s loans. The second was taken by David Daly but that seems to have been settled when David refinanced his loans out of NAMA and the legal matters at issue never got an airing or judgment. The third was taken by Treasury Holdings which has been given permission to pursue a judicial review of NAMA’s dealings with its loans and that hearing has yet to take place. If your legal system has holes in it, then wealthy developers and others will line up to take pot-shots at NAMA.

There are alternatives to NAMA. If the losses are too great, then all NAMA will do is crystallise colossal losses and unless there is a plan to provide adequate funding to replenish the capital lost through the NAMA process, then other options such as winding up insolvent banks need to be considered. The British solution was to throw extra cash at the banks to tide them over what was considered a temporary crisis, but if the crisis persists then the banks are still left with assets of doubtful quality which will act to deter investment and lending to banks, which in turn will lead to credit restrictions and the spancelling of economic growth. The perspective on here is that a NAMA-type solution has its place in the Spanish example, but it should sit alongside winding-up banks and temporary extraordinary assistance.

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  1. on May 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm OMF

    My take on these questions:

    (1) What banks need to be NAMAed?
    All, and none. All because they are all bankrupted from property lending, and none because there is no need to Nama them when you can either nationalise or liquidate them instead.

    (2) How big are the losses in the banks?
    Neither I, you, Spain, the ECB, the Eu, or the banks themselves know the answer to this. We have absolutely no idea of the scale of the accounting trickery, as this crisis has proven time and time again. There is perhaps one or two very astute men in certain banks who know, but they are either too afraid to speak, or are being paid too much not to.

    (3) What is the limit of losses that can be shouldered by the nation?
    Financially, there is no limit under the current regime. Politically, it will be difficult to put in even €1 billion if it means that a Spanish province must go without.

    (4) What activity are the losses associated with?
    Fraud.

    (5) How competitive is your legal, accounting, insolvency and property professional services?If there as competitive as the Irish services in feathering their own nests at public expense, Spain is in real trouble.

    (6) Are prices still falling, when will the bottom be reached and what will the declines have been at that stage?Expect 80% declines and 20 years of stagnation, a la Japan, if you go the Nama route.

    (7) Will the valuation process be credible?
    Since half the point of the operation will be to prop(aganda) up the property industry, no. The valuation process will systematically overestimate the value of the loans.

    (8) Will the political structures allow NAMA to operate independently?
    The Spanish should get down on their knees and hope not. An independent Spanish Nama would rival the Vatican in power, influence, and eventually anachronistic dogma.

    (9) Will the assets acquired by NAMA lead to unhealthy distortion in the marketplace?
    Again, since the whole point of Nama is to prop up the industry, yes they absolutely will. The organisation will actively campaign against natural property decline.

    (10) How robust is your legal system?
    It doesn’t matter. The Rule of Banks has trumped the Rule of Law across the entire continent. So long a banks are treated leniently, developers, asset owners, and influentii of all kinds will slip off the hook left and right. Only little guys and nobodies will be left to pick up the tab. The Credit Courts are the only law in this town, and in Spain too I expect.


  2. on May 29, 2012 at 5:21 pm Jake Watts

    To give one an idea of where Spain finds itself in the world of “high finance” please see below. One of the incompetent fools who ran Bankia on the rocks leaves with 14 million in various benefits while the Baroness Thyssen literally sells off the family silver because of a liquidity problem. One of the great treasures of her namesake museum. The PP is doing everything it can, as was/is done in Ireland, to cover up the doings of the bankers.

    Mr. Daly is quoted as saying there is uncertainty in Europe. Is there a prize for the greatest understatement in recorded history?

    http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2012/05/29/economia/1338284358.html
    http://cultura.elpais.com/cultura/2012/05/29/actualidad/1338297355_514919.html


  3. on May 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm sf ca writer

    A native Indian told me that a Spanish company has been logging Redwoods to create vineyards in Humboldt,Ca hence, by law of universal karma, all of Spain is doomed.
    Not going to argue with that.


  4. on May 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm sf ca writer

    re above
    off topic a bit but relates to Spain, wine, trees, developers and rampant short-sighted global capitalism…(and some soon to be spanish nama’ed acerage)
    http://gualalariver.org/vineyards/2012-03-letter-to-Codorniu.html
    (most beautiful place on earth)
    el namanaldo?


  5. on May 29, 2012 at 6:36 pm john gallher

    Reuters take on Ireland,Bloomberg,ZeroHedge reporting that the bank of spain govn’r has resigned early, reminiscent of Neary’s resignation!

    “Unfortunately, it may not matter. The political crisis in Greece and banking woes in Spain now threaten to end the modest Irish recovery spotted by Martin on last month’s flight.”
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/29/us-ireland-contagion-idUSBRE84S04520120529

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-29/bank-of-spain-governor-to-leave-role-one-month-early.html


  6. on May 29, 2012 at 6:58 pm Jake Watts

    Bank of Spain Governor resigned early after the PP denied his request to speak to the congress about the Bankia disaster. Cover up and kick the can, all in one fell swoop.

    “El gobernador del Banco de España anuncia su decisión horas después de que el PP rechazara su petición expresa de comparecer en el Congreso para abordar su papel en la crisis de Bankia.”
    http://economia.elpais.com/economia/2012/05/29/actualidad/1338309172_382604.html


    • on May 29, 2012 at 7:41 pm namawinelake

      @Jake/John, there seems to be some momentum behind Spain’s bond yield which is at 6.4% today. With EFSF funding potentially available at 3.5%, you would wonder why Spain would not make an application for a bailout. There’s nothing magical about 7%, the rate at which both Ireland and Portugal succumbed to bailouts. The IBEX in Madrid closed at a 5-year+ low today.

      Spanish bond yields are their highest level since the crisis last November 2011 which was addressed when the ECB launched its two 3-year LTROs with €1tn of cheap funding. Although we might get another LTRO, the betting is that we won’t.
      http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/GSPG10YR:IND/chart

      From July 2012, that is in five weeks, it is likely to be the ESM which provides a bailout to Spain. And Spain is seeking loans to prop up its banks. There’s about €260bn left in the EFSF which may be rolled into the ESM, but it still seems that we may be on the hook for a Spanish bailout sooner rather than later.


  7. on May 29, 2012 at 8:03 pm john gallher

    @NWL this article in the Telegraph today suggested an alternative,causing no end of merriment/jingoistic comments among the bloggers/sites over here!
    Good news is Ireland does not appear to have any gold reserves at all !
    “Europe’s debtors must pawn their gold for Eurobond Redemption”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9298180/Europes-debtors-must-pawn-their-gold-for-Eurobond-Redemption.html
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/germany-has-generous-proposal-broke-piigs-cash-gold#comments


    • on May 29, 2012 at 8:18 pm Jake Watts

      @JG

      You beat me to it.


  8. on May 29, 2012 at 8:17 pm Jake Watts

    @NWL

    Please see two quotes from article late today on Spanish desperation. Sáenz de Santamaría is the Vice President and is even more over her head than Rojoy. Her argument is that Spain is “owed” the money (how it will b delivered is up in the air) because of the extreme sacrifices it has made for the EU. Ireland can jump in here as well. Do not think the Germans will go for it. See link courtesy of Zero Hedge.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9298180/Europes-debtors-must-pawn-their-gold-for-Eurobond-Redemption.html

    As you suggest, Spain must have a bailout. And, according to the Spanish government, it better be soon. Things seem to moving a lot quicker than many had anticipated.

    “Para los países que están haciendo reformas hay que encontrar una fórmula para compensarles, en lugar de castigarles”, declaró, señalando la reestructuración del mercado laboral español como una medida que pretende hacer más competitivas a las empresas, así como sus reformas del sector financiero.

    “For countries who are making reforms, a formula must be found to help them, rather than punish them.” She mentioned the restructuring of the labor market to make it more competitive, as well as the financial sector.

    “Nos gustaría que la decisión se tomara lo antes posible, con agilidad. Es lo mejor para todos, no solo para España. Hay que despejar dudas”, declaró Sáenz de Santamaría.

    “We would like the decision to be taken as soon as possible, with nimbleness. It would be the besst for all, not just Spain. Doubts should be removed.

    http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/noticias/4002935/05/12/Saenz-de-Santamaria-pide-medidas-rapidas-a-Europa-Se-trata-del-futuro-del-euro.html


  9. on May 29, 2012 at 8:24 pm john gallher

    @JW my Spanish is not on a par with yours,many thanks to Google translate,but great links,events are moving very fast.


  10. on May 29, 2012 at 10:12 pm Jake Watts

    Looks like ECB just checked to Ben and the Fed. And, Spain is the river card.

    Buena suerte to one and all.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/ecb-calls-spains-bluff-or-does-it-and-did-europe-just-check-fed


  11. on May 30, 2012 at 2:15 am Jake Watts

    Here is a little nugget the Irish people might want to chew on:

    And, he added, Spanish government sources defend themselves (wanting to print) by stating that the rescues of Portugal, Greece and IRELAND have been catastrophic and “If turned down (wanting to print), Spain is not going to accept a similar form of intervention.”

    Y, añade, fuentes del Gobierno español defienden que los rescates de Portugal, Grecia e Irlanda han sido catastróficos y “España no va a ceder en su negativa a aceptar una forma de intervención similar”.
    http://economia.elpais.com/economia/2012/05/29/actualidad/1338328012_760118.html

    In so many words, the Spanish Partido Popular (one of the most conservative parties in Europe) is using the argument that they are not going to be coerced into what they consider to be catastrophic intervention by Troika. Spain does not deserve the fate of the other three countries. If this is so, what does it make Ireland and the rest?


    • on May 30, 2012 at 9:04 am Joseph Ryan

      So the ECB want to bust the Spanish State like they did Ireland by insisting that Spain put up the money.
      Monetary financing is not in the ECB envelope but the ECB has no problem with State fiscal financing even though it will bankrupt the State.

      Spain has a dilemma but a very neat solution.
      Put the banks into resolution and clean out the bondholders. Some of the fall out may hurt Spain but it solve the problem and sort out the Frankfurt mullahs once and for all.


      • on May 30, 2012 at 9:17 am Brian Flanagan

        “Put the banks into resolution and clean out the bondholders. Some of the fall out may hurt Spain but it solve the problem and sort out the Frankfurt mullahs once and for all.”

        Exactly what Ireland should have done.


  12. on May 30, 2012 at 2:49 am sf ca writer

    @jake watts
    sheep


  13. on May 30, 2012 at 4:36 am Jake Watts

    Ten questions Spain should ask about the fall of Bankia.

    1. How do you go from a profit of 41 million to a loss of 7 billion, and climbing, in a matter of days?

    2. Why would you pay one the idiots that ran the bank a severance of 14 million?

    3. Why did Deloitte auditors refuse to sign off on their financial statement?

    4. Why did the Governor of the Bank of Spain resign on two weeks notice after speaking with Prime Minister Rajoy and what did it have to do with his being denied permission to speak to the congress about the Bankia monumental screw up?

    5. Why is the Partido Popular stonewalling any attempt to find out what went wrong and punish the wrong doers? (sound familiar?)

    6. How can a genius like Rodrigo Rato, former IFM big shot, run Bankia into the ground?

    7. Why is Argentine President Cristina Fernandez laughing so hard when she sees Rodrigo Rato on the ropes after she and her late husband ran him out of Argentina in 2006?http://www.expansion.com/2012/05/30/empresas/banca/1338333813.html?a=bca018d32dfe65e34455f906c008fb66&t=1338345993

    8. Why is the ECB not even remotely interested in Rajoy’s clever plan to “borrow” 23 billion from them to recapitalize Bankia? Yes, that is correct recapitalize with debt, who ever heard of cash?

    9. Why is the entire financial community is stitches over Bankia’s latest plan to issue over 60, yes, sixty, billion in debt over the next five years to shore up Bankia? http://www.eleconomista.es/banca-finanzas/noticias/4002456/05/12/Bankia-pretende-emitir-60000-millones-de-deuda-en-cinco-anos.html

    10. And, last but not least, who in their right mind would buy debt from a Spanish bank?



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