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Shock at occupation of NAMA building in Dublin

January 29, 2012 by namawinelake

The “shock” is that the occupiers yesterday were actually able to identify and find what now does appear to have been a NAMA building, because the description of the building on the NAMA foreclosure list (see below) was so misleading as to confuse all but the most tenacious of protesters. God alone knows how misleading the NAMA description is for potential purchasers of NAMA property.

The building occupied by protesters yesterday was 66-67 Great Strand Street which is in central Dublin, the Smithfield area – Dublin 1 to be precise but close to Dublin 7. The postal number is important as you’ll see anon. Video and pictures from the interior of the building suggest it was suitable for office use, though it seems the last known use of the building was by Roches Stores for storage of merchandise.

It now seems that the property may well have been on the latest NAMA foreclosure list but shown as Dublin 2 – see below – which is the other side of the Liffey. There is no “Great Strand Street” in Dublin 2.Because the list is sorted by postal area if you looked in the correct place on the NAMA list -Dublin 1 – you wouldn’t find it. And the NAMA description omits any street number, it just says “Great Strand Street”. So if you are finding NAMA receivers or estate agents slow to respond to you – a not uncommon complaint – or you just want to get a rough assessment of the building without giving your name and details to the agent, then you’re pretty well obstructed. The NAMA description of the building is now “Development – commenced” but earlier last year in the July 2011 foreclosure list, there were two entries shown for Great Strand Street and one was in Dublin 1 and that entry was then shown as “warehouse”

NAMA came in for criticism from Fine Gael TD, Mary Mitchell O’Connor in the Dail last November 2011 for the Agency’s sloppy description of a property in Booterstown. And in a separate recent case, although the address was probably correct, NAMA seems to have confined the marketing of a 125-acre €4m development property in Cork, to erecting signage in a few fields in Cork. So if you were a Dublin, Limerick, Galway or Belfast developer in the market for a major €4m property, you would need to have been on quite a motoring detour to even see the sign.

NAMA started foreclosing on property in 2010 but it was only July 2011 that the Agency produced its first foreclosure list. The list is in a PDF format which cannot be sorted which makes establishing property removed from the previous list a major challenge. In fact NAMA seems to be going out of its way to obstruct the accurate advertising of the foreclosed property on which the Agency is mandated, by the NAMA Act to, sell so as to maximise returns to the taxpayer. So sloppy is the Agency that the last foreclosure list issued on 22nd December 2011 omitted all pre-November 2011 foreclosed property for sale. This error was corrected without any announcement by the Agency on 3rd January 2012.

The Agency previously reported that its first foreclosure list attracted some 98,000 hits on the NAMA website, but the Agency seems not to have been able to take the hint that this was, and is, the most valuable and sought-after information the Agency produces so it is in the Agency’s interest to ensure the listing is accurate and as easy to use as is feasible. No wonder Treasury Holdings don’t want NAMA appointed as receivers if this is the sort of sloppy administration and marketing, representative of the NAMA way of doing things.

So well done to the occupiers yesterday for actually being able to find 66-67 Great Strand Street (in Dublin 1). But spare a thought for potential buyers that might actually want to spend money on NAMA foreclosed assets.

NAMA will produce its seventh foreclosure list in the next couple of days. Will the Agency produce information in a sortable format? Will the Agency still need protesters and occupiers to uncover NAMA errors?

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  1. on January 29, 2012 at 7:31 pm John Gallaher

    The Media Relations Department of Treasury Wishes You a Happy Birthday.
    “No wonder Treasury Holdings don’t want NAMA appointed as receivers if this is the sort of sloppy administration and marketing, representative of the NAMA way of doing things”
    Sloppy……that would be owing twice your asset base,no cash reserves.
    NAMA is not seriously engaged in shifting domestic property,its just not a priority.


  2. on January 29, 2012 at 7:56 pm Hume Street

    If this building is anything to go on, NAMA (and other bank owned) property in Ireland is suffering from various levels of neglect – the UNlock Nama team reported a leaky roof which has led to damage on three floors.
    From ghost estates to historic buildings, Nama does not claim any responsibility for the buildings themselves, and we pay for this ultimately, both monetarily and socially.


    • on January 29, 2012 at 8:01 pm namawinelake

      @Hume Street, there is evidence of serious water damage in photographs of the building. There is green mould visible at windows, and black mould elsewhere. Not only has the occupation drawn attention to NAMA’s apparently sloppy description of properties but it has shown that empty buildings are not being maintained (or indeed secured).


      • on January 30, 2012 at 2:19 am OMF

        And once again, I reiterate my conclusion that Nama is going to make an 80% loss for the taxpayer. I will hold this position until we are given compelling evidence to the contrary. The state of this property only reinforces just how worthless the majority of Nama’s portfolio really is.


  3. on January 29, 2012 at 8:13 pm John Gallaher

    Must have misplaced that memo,the objective is to recoup as best as possible all the money the useless Irish developers like Treasury pissed away.
    How,does fixing the roof or spending valuable capital on clearly redevelopment plays,help.
    Should they set up a tidy towns division too.


  4. on January 29, 2012 at 9:04 pm who_shot_the_tiger

    The executives in NAMA rarely leave the building. It is only recently that they have taken to visiting the property that underlies the loans. Even then, they have no idea what they are looking at, no clue as to its condition, the cost of remedial works or even what to do with it. They are more comfortable in front of the computer screen updating photos of the WAGs shopping bags.


  5. on January 29, 2012 at 9:19 pm John Gallaher

    Is this the same ownership entity that puked up the deal in the mountains,with the fake ski slope.Perhaps,some shoddy sloppy paperwork.

    “So if you were a Dublin, Limerick, Galway or Belfast developer in the market for a major €4m property”….hardly major how about minor,here you take credit cards I can use the air miles.


  6. on January 29, 2012 at 9:34 pm John Gallaher

    There is no corealation between the squeeze finally put upon Treasury and maintaining properties.None whatsoever.
    NAMA would probably admit they have a lot of work to do,but spare a thought for the crap paperwork they inherited.
    To link the inept marketing of domestic property and Treasury’s allegations that they are best suited to maximse value is disingenuous.What,acquisition direction with capital to deploy hits a website and presents it to committe.
    It’s for amateurs,time wasters and tire kickers or sloppy buyers!


  7. on January 29, 2012 at 10:16 pm pj

    Justine McCarthy in the ST today says that the occupiers had arranged two advance viewings of the building through an estate agent: one as potential buyers and one as potential tenants.
    “According to Mick O’Broin, a spokesman, Hugh Regan bought the building in 2006 with a loan from Anglo.
    O’Broin said that the property is likely to be sold along with the Morrison Hotel’
    Yesterday’s occupation is the first in a series, according to O’Broin.
    He said the group was not associated with #Occupdamestreet but does have links with groups in Barcelona and Madrid”


  8. on January 30, 2012 at 12:44 am Pokeman

    Tenants/Prisoners of Treasury. Guess who had influence when it came to the abolition of UORRS. Johnny did famously ask Bertie to look after them. Fine Gael are doing an even better job. I hope the poor Shanghai tenants have not been shanghaied also.

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  9. on January 30, 2012 at 1:28 am who_shot_the_tiger

    @Pokeman,
    Should the taxpayer take a further hit for the benefit of, Ulster Bank, KPMG, PwC, Vodafone, Unilever, Volvo Penta, WorldCom, trustee Savings Bank etc, etc?…….


  10. on January 30, 2012 at 3:14 am who_shot_the_tiger

    @OMF, We are on the same page here. there is just mo way that it is possible for NAMA to make anything other than a 50% plus loss (I put it at approximately 55%) with its present policies. Its disposal management has no coherent strategy. It’s disposing of its prime assets individually, hiding its accumulating losses in its retained loanbook that becomes more toxic with each individual disposal. A deadly bomb on a long fuse. It’s just a matter of time until it explodes.


  11. on January 30, 2012 at 4:42 am Jake Watts

    Look at what is around the corner. The East Bay is the mother of many a spark that sets off that long fuse. Remember Nixon and the last helicopter out of Saigon?

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_19848853



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