[The judgment is available online here]
Sean Quinn is not apparently a NAMA developer even though he built up a considerable worldwide property portfolio and even though he was, by any measure, a borrower of systemic importance to Anglo, and by extension the State which now 100% owns Anglo (or IBRC as it is now known after its merger with the Irish Nationwide Building Society). But Sean is of considerable interest on here, and his bankruptcy move before Christmas as well the machinations around the shopping centre in Kiev, Ukraine have been covered on here. Given imminent changes in bankruptcy legislation on this side of the Border, Sean’s case is also of interest for highlighting the contrasts in bankruptcy law between the two jurisdictions.
In November 2011, Sean sought and was granted a bankruptcy order. IBRC contested the grant. Today the judge in the High Court in Belfast issued a judgment in which he annulled the previously given order, and it now seems almost certain that IBRC will attempt to bankrupt Sean in Dublin.
The judgment from Belfast is available here, and it makes fascinating reading, and is far less constrained that Judge Kelly’s judgment in December 2011 which saw an order for some €3m granted against Sean’s wife, Patricia.
Personal highlights from the judgment include:
– Sean Quinn says he was “in shock” after Anglo appointed receivers and it became clear Anglo didn’t want him near the business. Perhaps not a surprise that he was “in shock” but it does seem surprising, in light of how the receivership was effected, that he might have entertained a notion of Anglo wanting him to consult with the business in receivership.
– Judge says Sean was hesitant in disclosing details of new business ventures after Quinn group receivership and concludes “on balance of probabilities” lease document on office in Derrylin, Fermanagh was prepared after date claimed by Sean Quinn and was designed to bolster Sean’s present arguments about his centre of main interest being in Northern Ireland
– Commercial lease document relating to Sean Quinn’s current premises in Derrylin, Fermanagh described by judge as a “somewhat curious document” Not drawn up by solicitors, not referred to on Sean’s statement of affairs and despite the monthly rent being only GBP 50 (€60) payable to the landlord described as a friend, apparently necessitating a commercial lease document which referred to remedies in case of default. Also lease signatures weren’t witnessed and no evidence of correspondence involving the premises despite Sean claiming he occupied it since May 2011 and was developing businesses.
– Judge queries invoices from a printers in Tallaght, west Dublin called “Print in Time” which purported to be for letterheads and business cards showing an address of Sean’s new office in Derrylin and says if the invoice was “genuinely dated” then it “is likely” it refers to other letterheads and cards to the ones furnished to the court. Judge also says the invoice didn’t mention compliment slips which Sean furnished to the court.
– Sean Quinn says he was never formally dismissed from the Quinn group
– Judge dismisses Sean’s contention that he was involved in a forestry business in Derrylin by saying “he may well have walked some forestry lands leased to his children but a decision as to whether or not that forestry should be thinned not only does not constitute a business but is a decision of an hour or two”
– Sean says he was meeting former colleagues at the disused tyre factory in Cavan for social reasons and not to conceive a new business. Judge concludes the premises was kitted out “not purely for social reasons”
– Sean says that the bankruptcy form didn’t have enough space to adequately make the full disclosure of facts required. Judge says Sean would have been entitled to affix supplementary sheets.
– Sean didn’t disclose in his bankruptcy application that he had an Irish passport and didn’t have a UK passport, didn’t disclose that he is registered to vote in the Republic and that 20% of his tax is paid to the Revenue Commissioners in the Republic.
UPDATE: 10th January, 2012. The Irish Times has posted an audio clip here in which Sean Quinn, speaking outside the High Court in Belfast, gives his reaction to today’s judgment and after talking about what he claims to be the destruction of the Quinn group by Anglo, says that the group – presumably the Quinn group – will make a loss of €4bn in 2010-2012 and a further €4bn in 2013-2017, he invites journalists to contact him so that he can justify these calculations.
3D Chess and Anglo very ‘observant’ monitoring GAA BLOGS!
Pity,they were not just a little more observant when they were pumping money out the door.
“Parsons was Winston’s fellow employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms-one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended.”
– George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 2
“I accept the evidence of Mr Richard Woodhouse, both on affidavit and orally,
that Mr Quinn is a regular visitor to premises in Belturbet. He asserted that in his affidavit and defended it in the witness box. He had learnt from the press and from the internet that Mr Quinn was seeking to set up a new insurance company or something of the like in Belturbet, which is in County Cavan near his home. He did not have Mr Quinn nor his family nor his associates followed but he did have the premises of which he had learnt observed by the firm which sought to effect service from time to time on Mr Quinn. They observed him visiting those premises” Pg 16 link above.
This is the same ‘Woodhouse” who was quoted in NYT over the weekend..
“It is very much a three-dimensional chess game,” said Richard Woodhouse.
WTF is 3D chess only reference I can find is to Star Trek.
“This is the official STAR TREK Tridimensional Chess Set based on the futuristic chess game seen on board the great starship the U.S.S Enterprise and first introduced by Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock in the classic episode “Where No Man Has Gone Before”
@John,
some might say there’s something odd about IBRC not having the Quinn family “followed”, remember they collectively are claimed by IBRC to owe close to €3bn to the bank. On the other hand Quinn Insurance will presumably have a private investigator “follow” an insurance claimant if they think they can reduce any compensation payment.
3D chess is based on 2D chess but there are three chess boards arranged vertically on a pole. It’s more complicated than chess, and I think that’s what IBRC means – it’s very, very VERY complicated. Be thankful IBRC didn’t refer to the Kobayashi Maru test which might well apply to its attempts to get any sort of substantial repayment from the Quinns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru
@NWL thanks was looking to buy a ‘board’ hard to find,continuing with the 3D Chess analogy,this was another famous chess episode of Star Treck.
Thanks for that,so Woodhouse thinks this is some sort of obscure Trekkie game,hence the choice of analogy.
Assume,Quinn Insurance would have more grounds for ‘observation, than a GAA blog.
“The game even assumed a fairly significant role in the TOS episode “Court Martial”. (Captain Kirk is put on trial for negligence in the death of a crew member. Spock, who had programmed the Enterprise’s computer to be unbeatable at the game, plays five matches with the computer and easily wins each one, proving the machine—the source of seemingly irrefutable evidence confirming Kirk’s guilt—had been tampered with, thereby destroying its credibility in its account of the incident.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-dimensional_chess
Sean Quinn was fined €3.25 Million and stepped down from Quinn Insurance for “a loan of €288m which was extended from the insurance company to another related company.”
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1024/quinn-business.html
I assume when he states he spent €700 Million on CFDs that he had a slight misremembering accident?
Seems to that some of the reasons SQ was denied bankruptcy in NI might also be applied to (some) other bankruptcy tourists who pay tax in Ireland, vote in the ROI, don’t hold a UK passport, have extensive non-Sterling loans, bank mainly with with Irish-based banks, engaged in litigation in Dublin, have key advisers located in the Republic and so on.
So ‘on the balance of probabilities’ Mr Quinn submitted a knowingly dishonest affidavit as regards the Derrylin office and the printers. I’m not a lawyer but isn’t that quite serious?
@JP, I would have thought that “on the balance of probabilities” was nowhere near the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard required in criminal cases, for example. And civil cases would probably only have a financial penalty and if Sean owes €3bn-odd already, then pursuing a civil case hardly seems worth it.
Personally I’m surprised that if Sean hasn’t been formally dismissed from his position in the Quinn Group as apparently claimed during this case, that he doesn’t take Anglo to the Employment Appeals Tribunal for back pay and holidays.
Without doubt a political decision. Obviously the courts in Nor’n Ireland are more malleable to political “requests” than those in the Ukraine. This whole “forum shopping” bankruptcy case in the Quinn context is a side show.
@wstt
off topic:
you qualify for a US visa when you can read this an appreciate it without thinking Irish poets are better ( which they might be– but you have to stop thinking it)
http://whitmanarchive.org/published/periodical/poems/per.00078
@JP if he was a resident or citizen maybe but apparently hes not,just a tourist.Are you advocating prosecuting him back in Northern Ireland,you can’t have it both ways.In the unlikely event he was ever to face any charges on these grounds,should he be extradited.
There s something surreal and out of joint in Anglo s pursuit of Sean Quinn….I just cant help feeling Anglo itself should be having it s day in the dock first…
@sf ca writer, Thank you. Nice one. After 150 years not much has changed.
Anglo Irish Bank versus Sean Quinn.
Bit like two bald men fighting over a comb!
Both are insolvent and both want the taxpayer to foot the cost of the bill.
Land of saints and scholars.
I cannot understand why Quinn was not dealt with through the NAMA process given the Vast sums of Debt and Property that are involved.If Anglo dealt with its other Debtors the Same way then we wouldn’t have Ray and Co jumping over the water unopposed and using the Brits to help them out of a tight corner.
@Patrick, I too am surprised that NAMA didn’t acquire Sean’s loans. Perhaps as WSTT claims, the intention was to retain more political control over the pursuit of Sean. NAMA is legally independent, and I note that its policies sometimes run counter to the wishes of Govt, eg the Agency is expected to introduce the negative equity mortgage product in the next month or two and has a project team working on it, but the housing minister and Department of Finance have objected to the new product. On the other hand, Anglo is 100% state owned, chaired by a former finance minister Alan Dukes and dependent on “promissory notes” to stay open, so safe to say Mike Aynsley will always take calls from Government buildings!
Ray Grehan had extensive UK business interests – developments in London docklands, a shopping centre in Ealing, west London and an hotel in Shoreditch, east London as well as a €7m apartment in Knightsbridge, central London. That said, even though in general terms, Ray’s filing for bankruptcy wasn’t a surprise, I get the impression that the news last Friday did come as a specific surprise to the Agency. And the Agency told Bloomberg that it was “reviewing the situation”.
By the way, I am surprised that Sean didn’t have sterling borrowings. In 2005, Sean bought the Belfry golf and leisure complex for GBP 186m and there was some subsequent development paid for in sterling. I thought this project was underpinned by loans, which I would expect to have been in sterling.
As I said, this is just a vindictive politically driven media sideshow. A Roman circus for the masses. The cost is immaterial to the shower in power.
The real battle is in the Ukraine, Cyprus, the BVI and Russia. That’s where the money is – not in Sean’s €50k bank account. They are like a dog distracted by a bone, while the raiders take the silver.
@patrick, What difference does it make where the bankruptcy proceedings are held? You can’t force someone to stay if they want to leave. Bankruptcy is not a crime and the law will be changed here before the end of March 2012 to reduce the bankruptcy period in any event.
Although in rumors are abroad that NAMA is attempting to restrict the movement if borrowers and limit their ability to travel outside the State in behavioral restrictions.
Are these people nuts? Ever heard of Bunteacht na hEireann? Just tell them to f@&k off lads. X Case anyone…
@Garfunkel, I don’t know if this isn’t a little paranoid. It was referred to in yesterday’s judgment that a person’s centre of main interest (COMI, it even has an acronym!) must be discernible by creditors. So if Developer A, whose COMI is the Republic of Ireland at present, seeks to establish a COMI elsewhere, his creditors should be made aware of this, or be capable of being naturally made aware of this. And should NAMA see evidence of a COMI being established elsewhere it might decide to preemptively strike and seek to fast-track personal judgments and bankruptcy – you can’t just turn up at Holyhead or Newry and demand bankruptcy like asylum!
I don’t think NAMA needs to confiscate passports to retain control over bankruptcy jurisdictions!
@Patrick not sure how the change of BK venue enhances debt recovery,Sean may have been planning to return to work,employ some people,create some wealth.Sean is 65,what is so objectionable about him returning to work.
The lack of modern BK law not only impacts the Ray and Sean’s of the world,many ordinary people are trapped with suffocating debts,they can never pay back.Its morally repugnant that the Govt. has not passed new fast tract humane debt laws,they are now using it in a “scrap”.
@WSTT hope he is better advised in the future,his defence/argument was quite pitiful here,but with the State throwing unlimited resources at him almost impossible to defend oneself.
I would happen to agree with Seans Attempt to use the Bankruptcy Proceedings in the North,If he had been successful,No doubt he would have been but for the Intervention of Anglo Irish Bank then after 12 mths then Sean and his Family would have been able to do what they where good at for 30years,Creating jobs in Deprived Border counties..Now we have to endure another round of this comedy roadshow through the Dublin courts to keep the Media happy and in a small way maybe showing Anglo doing some short of work.
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Looks like BoI have moved on a non-Anglo Quinn family firm http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16555590
Also there are suggestions that the judge in the Quinn bankruptcy case (Donnell Deeney) is absolutely furious at the Quinn performance outside the Belfast High Court.
@JP, hard to see what might have been provocative to the judge in Sean Quinn’s comments outside. As far as I know there was a five minute ad-hoc statement with some questions. There’s an audio recording of what I understand to be the complete “performance” here
[audio src="http://www.irishtimes.com/audio/2012/01/seanquinn100112.mp3" /]
What I did find interesting in what Sean was saying was that he claimed that the Quinn group (seemingly, it’s not 100% clear from the recording) would make losses of €4bn in 2010-2012 and another €4bn in 2013-2017. Of course Sean may have his own agenda but he did invite journalists to contact him so that he could share the workings. Given the possibility of yet another health levy, not to mention losses at a company in which the State still has an interest (through its ownership of Anglo, or IBRC as it is now called), I would have thought the claim might at least have warranted some investigation.
Lets be very clear here.
Sean Quinn is a Fianna Fail party supporter in the republic
It is clear as mud that this is an agenda led by the Fianna Gael party to get rid of the Quinn as a business entity.
As a young man ( well relatively) of 36, I am not long in tooth to understand politics at its best. But I do know understand and sense when politics is at play.
Take very example the arrest of Sean Fitz & co from the former Anglo on the day before the Dail recess. All a show for the people of Ireland
Can you name any big business associated with Fianna fail being brought down or have been brought down? Treasury Holdings is one. Nama Enemy No.1
Can I ask one question and I hope the Media ( well what is left of it) and other people will question how much DENIS O’BRIEN owes Anglo….?
I would imagine it would be in the hundreds of millions given the fact that he lost his total jock trying to oust the O’Reilly family.
This is money totally lost & gambled based on bet that a similar Sean Quinn did too.
Why isnt Denis Obrien not in the dock….? Well only Enda & co can answer that
and by the way, I am not affiliated to Sean Quinn or any political party. What I would like to see is fair play to all in a non corrupt, non biased Ireland.
@DOBie, Good question. Denis O’Brien is rumoured to be one of Anglo’s largest borrowers – and the silence is deafening.
Read recently it is down to 760m from about 1.3bn, reduced in the past year, his INM battle v O’Reilly has cost north of 500m
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/revealed-top-13-borrowers-who-owe-anglo-3081219.html
This may help