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Irish residential property prices – Q4, 2011 roundup

January 3, 2012 by namawinelake

As we now have the usual quarterly troika of Irish residential property price surveys from DAFT.ie, Myhome.ie and Sherry FitzGerald (not on the website yet, I am working from a press release), this entry is a roundup to see what the surveys are telling us. Here’s the overview.

(1)  At a national level, prices dropped 2-8% in quarter four of 2011 and 13-18% in the last year and are now 43-60% down from peak.

(2) InDublin, prices dropped 3-11% in quarter four and 15-24% in the last year and are now 50-64% down from peak.

(3) DAFT.ie and Myhome.ie both provide 26-county-by-county results.

(3a) DAFT.ie says that for Q4, 2011, Meath recorded the biggest decline with prices dropping 15.9%. On the other hand, prices in Donegal rose by 0.6% in the quarter.

(3b) Myhome.ie says that for Q4, 2011, Leitrim recorded the biggest decline at 8.3% whilst Offaly has recorded the biggest annual decline at 28%. On the other hand prices in Cavan rose by 2.7% in the quarter and at minus 2.6%, have recorded the smallest decline in the past 12 months.

In terms of how the different sources compile their statistics this is what each has to say.

(1) DAFT.ie : Its index is based on properties advertised on Daft.ie for a given period. The national average is built up from Census weights per county, in effect ensuring the average reflects where people live, not any variations from that that may exist in Daft’s market share. The regressions used are hedonic price regressions, accounting for all available and measurable attributes of properties and only coefficients with a very high degree of statistical significance (p < 0.001) are used. The average monthly sample size for sales during 2009 was over 10,000. Indices are based on standard methods, holding the mix of characteristics constant, with the annual average of 2007 used as the base. A working paper on the methodologies employed in both rental and sales markets will be published on the Daft.ie website soon. Stock and flow statistics are calculated using consistent series for the period covered. The change to the national average price is built up from Census weights per county, in effect ensuring the average reflects where people live, not any variations from that that may exist in Daft’s market share.

(2) Myhome.ie : Its index is based on actual asking prices of properties advertised on MyHome.ie with comparisons by quarter over the last six years. This represents the majority of properties for sale inIreland from leading estate agents nationwide.  The series in this report have been produced using a combination of statistical techniques. Their data is collected from quarterly snapshots of active, available properties on MyHome.ie. Their main National andDublin indices have been constructed with a widely-used regression technique which adjusts for change in the mixture of properties for sale in each quarter. Since the supply of property in each quarter has a different combination of types, sizes and locations, the real trends in property prices are easily obscured. Their method is designed to reflect price change independent of this variation in mix.

(3) Sherry FitzGerald : Its index is based on the analysis of a basket of properties in its locations nationwide.  Commencing in 1996 in theDublin market, it was extended nationwide in 1999. Each basket of properties was chosen based on a weighted profile of properties in each location.  The basket extends to over 1,500 properties, which are re-valued on a monthly basis forDublin properties and a quarterly basis for nationwide properties with results produced quarterly. The basket is held constant and re-valued based on market evidence.  Sherry FitzGerald through its franchise network is represented in every major city, town andcountyinIreland.

So two of the above are asking price indices and the Sherry FitzGerald index is a valuation assessment index (akin to how SCS/IPD and JLL compile the commercial property indices as far as I can see)

In addition to the above surveys, Ireland has two actual sale price series, one from the Department of the Environment Housing and Local Government which is an atrociously crude average of mortgage transactions and is issued six months after the event; the other is from the CSO and is issued monthly and is an hedonic index but only based on mortgages at eight Irish lending institutions. The bill giving legislative effect to House Price Database  – called the Property Services (Regulation) Bill – has now been approved and should see a Database available from mid-2012 which will have historical prices from 2010.

In terms of outlook for property prices, who knows? This blog’s predictions for 2012 are here. These are the latest predictions/projects captured on here which I believe to be a comprehensive reflection of reported predictions and projections, though if you feel there is any omission, please contact me so that I can update the table; house price projections in Ireland can be a vexed subject!

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  1. on January 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm who_shot_the_tiger

    @NWL, Could you clarify column “decline from start 2012” please? Feeling bit fuzzy after Xmas!


    • on January 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm namawinelake

      @WSTT, yes, it’s a challenge getting back into the swing of things!

      Decline from peak is, I hope, straightforward. To the end of November 2011 (the latest figures available) prices nationally were down 46% from peak according to the CSO.

      So if the projection/prediction is a 60% decline from peak and we are down 46% now, then that implies that the decline from where we are now by reference to prices today will be 26% (100 is peak, 54 is where we are at today, 40 will be the trough, so (54-40)/54 = 26%)

      As noted the Ronan Lyons decline is on a different basis. DAFT say we are 52% from peak now, not 46%. So in Ronan’s case only, a decline to 60% would be a 17% decline from today (100 is peak, 48 is where we’re at, 40 is the trough and the decline from 48 to 40 is 17%).


  2. on January 4, 2012 at 1:31 am beyond horizon

    I strongly feel media has acted to encourage negativity in public confidence so did the government.
    I do not hear positive figures talked much about. Its not that things will not change, it looks like we do not want to change because we are so use to depression by now. Let us rise and move. Media could motivate public confidence and imrpove housing condition in Ireland.



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