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If a puppet government continues to draw down free-range salaries, does that make it a kleptocracy?

December 6, 2011 by namawinelake

By the end of today, we should have the remainder of the ministerial announcements on Budget 2012, though it might be another few weeks before we see precisely how some of the new measures will be implemented in detail. But we probably know enough already to be able to give a broad assessment of Budget 2012.

First up, the economics – we all know the story by now. We had an economic shock in 2007/8 when our property and banking sectors failed. As a country, that left us with a tax-take far below state spending which was almost overnight left high-and-dry at Celtic Tiger era levels. And it is taking us eight years from 2008-2015 to get back to a state of equilibrium where our tax-take roughly equals our spending. Nothing complicated about that at all, and it could have been much worse – nobody died, it’s economics and we’re all determined to get back to a position where we pay our own way in the world. For our society, it would be nice if we had better closure on the reasons for the collapse in 2007/8 but economically, it’s happened and we need to adjust.

So it was agreed by most yesterday that Budget 2012 needed to be tough. Certainly in the Dail, there was near unanimous agreement to the size of the adjustment needed to move us along the path to equilibrium in 2015. That means that €3.8bn will need to be found in 2012 in cuts and extra taxes. Some people argue for a bigger upfront adjustment, some point out that if the ESRI’s projections on economic growth, published last week turn out to be accurate then the adjustment should have been over €4bn, others argue for adjustments over a longer period, but €3.8bn was in the main accepted by all.

What Budget 2012 hasn’t addressed is:

Unsustainable debt. The debate continues to simmer about whether or not Ireland’s sovereign debt and the debt that the Government is taking on, to bailout the banks is sustainable. The official projections are that debt:GDP will peak at under 120% in 2013 which is in the same ballpark as Italy’s debt, far better than Greece’s position which is projected to rocket close to 200%. Japan famously also nurses a 200% debt:GDP. The recent EU deals have anticipated some default on Greece’s debt to allow that country’s debt:GDP to reach 120% in 2020. Ireland historically had a debt:GDP of nearly 120% in 1987 and recovered from that, so that by 2007 our debt:GDP was only 25%. So although the debt:GDP is very high, it remains arguable whether or not it is sustainable. The view on here is that it is not sustainable, that we don’t have the prospects or potential that we had after 1987, that the debt:GNP which will rise to over 140% in 2013 is too much for society to bear and that there will need to be default on bank bailout debt, or eventually our sovereign debt will be placed in jeopardy, or we will end up with an unacceptable society. The sustainability position is arguable, but it is a fact that the Budget 2012 does not set out measures to change our debt in any new way.

Stimulus: Italy approved an austerity budget last weekend which will see a €30bn gross adjustment to the Italian economy in 2012, but importantly there is €10bn of a stimulus to boost Italy’s sluggish growth. There is practically no stimulus in Budget 2012. Capital expenditure is being cut which will eliminate jobs. Where might we find the money for a stimulus? It has been suggested the private pension industry might be persuaded to invest more in Ireland or that what remains as the national strategic reserve, the National Pension Reserve Fund, might be deployed – both sources have their difficulties; the pension industry is still smarting at the levy and the national reserve is maintained so we don’t end up completely broke. A suggestion on here is that NAMA’s €1bn+ cash mountain be invested in schemes which will pay NAMA more than the 1.7% interest per annum which NAMA pays the holders of its bonds.

Taxing wealth and high incomes. Since most people in this country are not wealthy or on high incomes, it seems not only fair to get those who can most afford it, to pay most, but it would also unburden most of us from the cuts and new taxes. But remember the reason this doesn’t happen naturally is that the super-wealthy are also super-mobile and London, Monaco, Switzerland, Gibraltar, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are only a short hop away. And higher taxes on the wealthy in any country tend to repel the wealthy and deter investment. That’s why it doesn’t happen – that’s not a left-wing or right-wing claim, that’s the reality. Having said that, in France, the wealthy (or at least what seemed like a representative sample of the wealthy) sought out increased taxation on their incomes in order to help the nation restore its finance; it is to be a temporary increase with the 3% levy on salaries over €500,000 set to expire at the end of 2013. Technocractic Italy too has imposed wealth taxes in its drive to boost growth and cut its own deficit.  Neither France nor Italy could be described as left-wing or socialist. In Ireland’s case, there is room for a time-limited levy on super-wealthy salaries.

Competitiveness: Ireland is making very slow progress in reforming is medical and legal professions so that prices can be brought down to European averages. Although a term of the Troika agreement, the Troika doesn’t seem very interested in this area as long as the deficit is being reduced. According to Eurostat, our consumer goods and services remain 18% higher than the EU average whilst our per capita GNP is just 3% higher than average. The National Consumer Agency was to be merged with the Competition Authority to save costs and deliver a more competitive environment. Practically no progress seems to have been made.

The Croke Park Agreement was also ignored in Budget 2012, as it is being deemed to deliver the savings originally envisaged.

But beyond the economics of the Budget in general, what sticks out like a sore thumb is the maintenance of what appear to be outrageous political salaries.

How on earth can Ireland justify paying its politicians the same as ts neighbour; a neighbouring country whose GDP is 10 times that of ours, whose population is 13 times that of ours, which maintains a sub-Superpower military, which charts its own monetary and fiscal course as it has control over its currency and its budgets; how on earth could we justify paying the same, but Ireland actually pays its politicians more! In the case of An Taoiseach, 20% more. There will be non-salary benefits which complicate any comparison but as far as I can tell, even these non-salary benefits tend to be at higher levels in Ireland.

The Government constantly complains that it is straitjacketed by the Troika Memorandum of Understanding, and that refrain has become the fundamental justification for austerity. Fair enough, but if our Government has effectively become, what Minister Noonan referred to in his response to last year’s Budget in December 2010 as, a “puppet government” then surely puppet politicians should get paid less than those with traditional freedom of action? What household will pay MORE for a confined turkey than a free-range turkey this Christmas? We don’t expect our own turkeys to vote for Christmas but when they consider it necessary to broadcast State of the Nation speeches in which they commit to “do all we can to protect the most vulnerable in our communities – our children, the sick, and the elderly”, surely even they cannot defend salaries so out of line with our closest neighbour, when they then impose cuts to services/benefits for “children, the sick and the elderly”.

Okay, even at a time when cuts are being foisted on the most vulnerable in society, taking down a salary which is 20% higher than your neighbour’s mightn’t fit the traditional description of a kleptocracy, and to be clear, there’s no specific accusation here of criminality or law-breaking, but if not kleptocracy in the traditional sense, it certainly appears greedy and arrogant. And at a time when the nation cries out for leadership, it diminishes the offices of our leaders. Ireland is practically unique in the world for failing to grow its population at home and the spectre of emigration has returned with the economic downturn – these are indeed difficult times, and enlightened leadership that is sensitive to the plight of the nation generally is needed more than ever.

Finally, one of the features of the bilateral bailout loan agreement that Ireland has with the UK, is that the UK, like the Troika, is entitled to send its own mission to examine budgets, and to audit figures and generally interfere in the economic governance of the State. And if you had just agreed to loan €4bn to someone, you’d want oversight as well, so we can hardly blame our neighbours for ensuring theoretical oversight provisions are contained in the agreement. But, might the UK does us all a favour and given its recent lending of the first tranche of €500m –odd, might it turn up in force with the Troika missionaries in January 2012, and give an honest-friend assessment of political salaries in this country?

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  1. on December 6, 2011 at 3:38 pm paddy19

    Re: “And higher taxes on the wealthy in any country tend to repel the wealthy and deter investment. ”

    Bit disappointed NWL, you usually are great on data based statements.
    This one is straight out the Newt Gingrich/Sarah Palin sound bite catalogue!

    Where is the evidence? The wealthy will invest where they see a return. The tax effect is just part of the decision.

    We now have a wealth tax for the little people in Ireland except we call it a property tax. If I live in a €300,000 house I’ll pay a wealth (asset based) tax if I live on €30M yacht, or own €1,000,000 worth of shares…. not a cent for owning the asset.

    We don’t have a real wealth tax in Ireland because a very powerful elite do not want it.

    Both Pat Kenny and Sean O’Rourke shut down any debate before it started on recent programmes. Does the small matter that these two individuals are wealthy have any effect on lack of a debate?

    A wealth tax works in a market economy because it forces the efficient use of assets to maximise profits. It simply doesn’t pay to leave assets sitting not making a return if they are taxed.

    In a time we are literally robbing the blind and the disabled can we really justify letting the wealthy elite who got us into this mess get away without paying their fair share?

    Time for a real debate on why we need a wealth tax? Lets here the market cheerleaders come up with something better than the usual sound bites to justify the lack of one.


  2. on December 6, 2011 at 4:40 pm sf ca writer

    I just watched a bit of the live debate, from abroad, of course.
    what a bunch of pathetic, bickering, cheap-shot loving, childlike, wasters. Almost every one of them. An embarrassment, a disgrace.


  3. on December 6, 2011 at 6:08 pm Jake Watts

    @NWL

    As far as fleeing Ireland to a tax haven all you have to do is call the US IRS and they can show you a thing or two about that option. You cannot even renounce your US citizenship to get away from the very long arm of these guys. Change the law, that simple. This should be harmonized in the entire EU and eliminate what amounts to “legalized” tax evation, but only for wealthy. Try and avoid paying your stinking 100 euro property tax and they slap a lien on your home.

    The level of today’s prevailing iniquity would gag a maggot.


  4. on December 6, 2011 at 6:26 pm Robert Browne

    Ireland population young. old, handicapped are being harvested by the government and its cronies just as they have done throughout the ages. Irish people for generations are willing to support “kleptocracy” and say goodbye to their own in order to preserve the crony capitalist, parish pump model of democracy which we keep voting for and which is currently being financed by the MOU.

    I agree that Mr. AJ Chopra and his colleagues, wined and dined as they are each time they come to Merrion Street are only too happy to go along with our government ministers and their segregative efforts to appease the IMF.

    I can only hope that the bond markets will realise the potential for social unrest etc in Ireland is huge and that they refuse to lend these people any more money in my name.


  5. on December 6, 2011 at 7:02 pm Georg R. Baumann

    War on the cottages and peace to the palaces.

    Puppet government? 100% yes. They are EU-ECB-IMF compliance managers who execute marching orders.

    Kleptocracy? 100% yes. Paying bondholders and stealing it from the peoples pockets, even worse, stealing it from the peoples future pockets.

    Only civil disobedience and outright revolt on a massive scale would do justice to the grand larceny that these liars and procrastinators are presenting as politics. Their rapacious policies serve and protect banksters and bondholders and slaughter our future and the future of our children.

    You have to seriously ask the question, at what stage does civil disobedience turned into a social duty?


    • on December 6, 2011 at 7:07 pm John GALLAHER

      Ah now, don’t spook the bond holder .
      Where did the paddys with the shovel go.. Holding a clipboard… Sold r souls,miserable shower shallow,we were always betrayed by selling out.


  6. on December 7, 2011 at 2:35 am machholz

    Taxing people’s homes is double taxation and the continuous squeezing of the poorer in this country will only lead to social revolt!

    This German imposed austerity is immoral, unjust and is illegal as the politicians have somehow decided that we the people of Ireland must pay back the private gambling debts of corrupt bankers, not only in Ireland but also bailout the disastrous gambling of the Deutsche Bank in Germany who are responsible for the entire financial meltdown in Europe along with their pals in the US Goldman Sacks. Irish men and woman died to have; independent Irish Republic .The current political masters in this country have abandoned the aspirations of that Irish proclamation of 1916. I charge them all with treason and any and all resistance to this Global market dictatorship is entirely legitimate.

    We the people of Ireland are not responsible for this financial meltdown and the people that are responsible are busy dishing out austerity measures whilst at the same time they are rewarding their pals and insiders with cushy well paid jobs and perks.

    It’s time to take back our country from the mouthpieces of the gangsters in Europe.

    Hell no, we won’t pay.

    Wake up Ireland how long more will you allow these leaches to suck you dry?


    • on December 7, 2011 at 11:49 am Georg R. Baumann

      I think it is crucial that an organsied “I won’t pay!” movement starts to attract as many as possible people to a dedicated website.


  7. on December 10, 2011 at 8:31 pm €130k-a-year Irish politician declares the country is bankrupt and invites suggestions to fix the deficit « NAMA Wine Lake

    […] is a comparison of the headline salaries of our own senior politicians and their non-bankrupt UK counterparts here. The UK is also noteworthy because last week Prime Minister David Cameron made his ministers accept […]



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