On the NAMA wine lakeblog, there is a page dedicated to providing an overview of bond rates for the so-called PIGS countries (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) together with up-to-date Moody’s ratings. The purpose of creating a dedicated page was to facilitate the monitoring of the bond market’s assessment of what were originally considered to be the EuroZone’s four most economically vulnerable countries after the 2007/8 financial crisis. Yes, Italy originally made it the “PIIGS” and Belgium and the UK have their own substantial debt problems, but it is the PIGS that have more or less fulfilled expectations.
All except Spain, which in the parlance of medieval castle defences is regarded as the citadel, the last redoubt because its economy dwarves the combined economies of PIG and may therefore exceed the limits of EU containment bailout funds if it runs into funding problems. The thing is, with its 10-year bonds trading at over 5.6% – slightly below the 5.68%/7.5 year money that Olli Rehn talked about for Portugal’s bailout on May 10th but certainly above the 5.1%/7.5 year money referred to in Minister Noonan’s statement two weeks ago when he said Portugal’s bailout was at a 0.6% discount to Ireland’s – does Spain really deserve its Moody’s Aa2 credit rating (third highest and seven ranks above Ireland)? Will it be feasible for Spain to repay or roll-over €660bn of debt that matures over the next two years?
First up, the whole topic “is Spain f*cked?” is deserving of a properly researched dissertation. This entry examines some of the headlines and poses some of the questions that seemed obvious inIrelandin the mid-2000s but which were rarely asked. The subject deserves 20,000 words, not 2,000 and it needs far more research. Which might be a challenge because on the face of it, Spaindoesn’t seem to have the same standard of statistical reporting as Ireland. Might one of our economics masters students, tutored by our able band of economists in academia, research in detail the topics below and produce a better-informed answer to the question? If they do, they might do worse than take a look at the following to help with producing a dissertation proposal.
Spain overview
Country with a population of 46m with a GDP of €1tn. Unemployment in April was 20.6%, by far the highest in the EU well ahead of Greece at 16.2%, Ireland at 14.1% and Portugal at 12.4% (Latvia, Lithuania also have elevated unemployment at around 17%). Take a look at the EU Spring Forecast 2011 forSpain andIreland which covered the 2011-12 period:
The real difference between Ireland and Spain is the debt to GDP %. Ireland’s is horrendous, whilst Spain’s is uncomfortably higher than the 60% stipulated in the Stability and Growth Pact, that is to be adhered to by all EuroZone countries.Spain’s debt to GDP is well below Ireland’s. But Ireland is incurring some €70bn of debt to bail out its banks which represents 44% of Irish GDP. Strip that cost out andIreland’s debt to GDP is less than Spain’s. For all the accusations of economic idiocy hurled atIreland, we are confronting the true level of losses in our banks. We have had the most intrusive stress testing, oversight by the IMF and ECB plus NAMA which has done a pretty good job in valuing and crystallising property loan losses and we have an internal regulatory function in the Central Bank ofIrelandwhich now seems very impressive. All of this has meantIrelandhas crystallised losses in the banking system and consequentlyIrelandhas stumped up 44% of its GDP to support and capitalise that banking system. Now, what about Spain, does it have undisclosed banking losses which might also require enormous bailouts. Given the difference in GDP’s, Spainwould need see €400bn of State recapitalisation in its banking system to get it toIreland’s level of debt:GDP. Is that at all a possibility? If Irelandcould have a bank bailout cost of €70bn in a country with a population of 4.5m, could Spain have a €400bn hole in a country with a population of 46m?
Spanish residential property
I must admit to being truly puzzled by what seems like a modest price correction in the Spanish residential property market. Not an expert by any means, but I am familiar enough with the Costa Del Sol to have seen an immense construction boom over the last decade which seemed no less buccaneering than the Irish boom. New urbanizacions seemed to pop up like mushrooms every six months and from Estepona in the west to Nerja in the east the whole coastal area seemed to be a hotbed of cranes and construction for a decade and prices seemed to be increasing by 10-15% each year. This is highly anecdotal of course but still, take a look at actual price performance in Spainsince 2000, courtesy of the English-language Spanish Property Insight website which has extracted figures from the Spanish ministry of development.
Across Spain, prices are now down just 15% from the 2008 peak to Q1, 2011 and in Andalucia, home to the Costa Del Sol, by the same modest 16%, in fact the worst performing region was Alicantewhich is down by 21% from peak, while on a city basis Malagawas worst with a drop of 22%. Contrast that with an average fall of 41% in Ireland as a whole and 48% in Dublin. In Northern Ireland (sterling area with the Bank of England in charge), prices have dropped more than 44% from peak. So why on earth has the decline inSpain been so limited?
In Ireland, we have Ghost Estates, in Spain they have Ghost Towns, newly built modern housing constructed during the 2000s but today lying mostly empty – take a look at some of them here. Spain indeed did have a construction boom as illustrated by planning approvals (best approximation I can find to construction, even the Spanish ministry of development seems to monitor construction by reference to planning approvals) which show that in the years 2000-2007, there was approval for some 3.4m homes equating to just over 400,000 per annum whilst Spain’s population grew by 11% from 40.3m in 2000 to 44.9m in 2007. In 2001, Spain had some 21m homes and Spain has a high vacancy rate of 20% which presumably reflects the fact that many homes are holiday homes. In Ireland from 2000-2007 we constructed 558,285 (average of 69,786 see housing completion sections of reports here and here) whilst our population grew by 14% from 3.8m in 2000 to 4.3m in 2007. Here’s a summary.
So both Ireland and Spain had a construction boom in the 2000s, both saw prices spike during the 2000s with 10%+ annual price increases, both countries are now suffering economically with high unemployment and budget deficits. So why is Ireland perceived to be in a worse economic position compared to Spain?
Spanish banks
The obvious difference between Ireland and Spain is that our banking system has incurred huge losses, mostly on property lending in the 2000s. And thatIrelandhas taken major steps to support the banking sector. These have included the extraordinary State guarantee in September 2008, the subsequent recapitalisation of banks as losses were revealed, the establishment of the National Asset Management Agency (NAMA) to objectively value and remove certain property loans from the banking system, domestic stress tests including a €30m stress testing exercise in Q1, 2011 undertaken by BlackRock, Barclays Capital and the Boston Consulting Group overseen by external officials from the ECB and IMF, and by our own Central Bank of Ireland. The result of all of this is that the State will borrow an estimated €70bn to cover losses in the banks so thatIrelandpreserves a banking system grounded in existing banks.
What about Spain’s banks? One Spanish bank you hear a lot about here is Santander which bought AIB’s Bank Zachodni unit in Poland recently and which also bought the Abbey bank/building society in theUK. Banks on the acquisition trail during the present financial crisis certainly don’t indicate weakness. And whilst Ireland has been internationally lambasted for allowing mortgage credit to spiral in the 2000s, and changing rules to allow certain bank assets to be used to access credit on international markets which in turn stoked the credit boom even further, we are bored to death with tales about how the Spanish Central Bank intervened in that country’s banking sector to ensure the banks were sufficiently capitalised to weather any downturn. So the impression might be that Spanish banks are just fine.
Well take a look at the dark side of Spanish banking in this report on Spanish sub-prime mortgages in 2007 – 120% mortgages, no deposit, three month work history, sounds familiar in Ireland, in Spain at least 50,000 such mortgages were being reportedly handed out each year during the boom by just one subprime provider, CreditServices whose president thinks that one third of all Spanish mortgages (including subprime) will be in default in 2011. InIreland some 50-60,000 of the 790,000 mortgages are in arrears by more than 90 days and a further 30,000 have been restructured. We have a draconian bankruptcy regime and extensive mortgage company forbearance measures that sees less than 500 repossessions each year. Spain is not at all compassionate when it comes to such matters.
Last July 2010, the Committee of European Banking Supervisors (CEBS) published its now discredited stress tests; remember these were the stress tests that gave Bank of Ireland and AIB clean bills of health, despite recent stress tests identifying €5.2bn and €13.3bn additional capital needs respectively. Of the 91 banks stress tested, seven failed and five of these were Spanish – Diada, Espiga, Banca Civica, Unnim and Cajasur (in fact 27 of the 91 banks stress tested were Spanish). If it weren’t for the IMF and EU bailout,Ireland might never have confronted the true level of losses as uncovered by the latest stress testing. But if both ofIreland’s main banks could pass the stress tests then and need nearly €20bn now, what does that say for the Spanish banking sector now?
Spain’s banks were exposed to what we might call Land and Development to the tune of €445bn (yes billion) in December 2009. Irish banks have seen average haircuts on the value of their land and development (and associated lending) of 58%. Spain apparently has €40bn of loss provisions against its land and development loans. If its loans were to turn out to be as rotten as those inIreland there might be more than €200bn of land and development losses lurking around the Spanish banking system. Add in mortgage default in a stressed property market which would seem from an outsider’s point of view to have displayed miraculous resilience during the property downturn, and could we have €400bn of additional losses in the Spanish banking sector?
Conclusion
This entry didn’t set out to be a comprehensive study of Spain’s property and banking sectors. There is no examination of commercial property at all and little on Spain’s broader economy.Spain has an enormous banking sector and much research would be required to provide up to date estimates of losses. However for a fellow EuroZone country which plainly had a property boom in the 2000s, whose economy is suffering nearly as much as Ireland’s (on some bases like unemployment suffering more), it is puzzling that it still enjoys Moody’s third highest credit rating whilst Ireland is lifting its legs to avoid junk status.Spain is not in receipt of a bailout though it needs refinance €660bn of bonds in the next two years. Its 10-year bond rate is close to – indeed, arguably now above – the bailout rate offered to Portugal. How long before Spain succumbs and PIGS is incarnate?
I leave you with a warning from the chairman of the True Finns party in Finland Timo Soini who said “And so, unpurged, the gangrene spreads. The Spanish property sector is much bigger and more uncharted than that ofIreland. It is not just the cajas that are in trouble. There are major Spanish banks where what lies beneath the surface of the balance sheet may be a zombie, just as happened in Ireland for a while. The clock is ticking, and the problem is not going away.”
UPDATE: 5th August, 2011. Spain’s central bank has today issued its quarterly economic bulletin for Q2, 2011 (English language summary available here) in which it notes that growth of the economy continues at a sluggish pace (0.2% quarter on quarter and 0.7% year on year), unemployment remains elevated at 20.9%, inflation is at 3%. House price declines have picked up (5.2% year on year in Q2, compared with 4.7% in Q1) which mean that prices are 17% down from peak in 2007 (22% in real terms).
Tick Tock ,Tick Tock, September / October or maybe sooner……
@NWL
You really cannot beleive the official numbers on Spanish real estate. Below is an article on 1,200 properties to be sold for as much as 70% off by Banesto (majority owned by Banco Santander). They are offering mortrtagages for as littel as 89 euros a month.
http://www.madridpress.com/noticia/122110/%20/banesto-pone-venta-1200-pisos-descuentos-hasta-70.html
And, in an area prominent to Greece, corruption, the Botin family of Banco Santander have already paid over 200 million for tax evasion and are reported to have as much as 6 billion hidden away in Switzerland .
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-16/spain-national-court-to-investigate-botin-family-over-taxes-1-.html
http://www.elconfidencial.com/economia/2011/botin-millones-ocultos-suiza-hsbc-20110616-80204.html
The cajas (regional banks) are a black hole. Monday there was an article in the FT (I don’t have access to it) but quoted below in Spanish that the Caja de Castilla la Mancha is the Greece of Spain. Most, if not all, of the Cajas are in very bad shape. There debt is at record levels and growing raidly, up 24% in the first three months of year on year.
http://www.elconfidencial.com/economia/2011/castilla-lamancha-bancarrota-grecia-autonomica.html
http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/noticias/3163708/06/11/La-deuda-de-las-comunidades-autonomas-bate-records-ya-supone-el-114-del-PIB.html
This is indeed a project for a graduate student. It just goes on and on. The only reason Spain has been able to fly under the radar is because of the diversionary tactics of the ECB. However, there day will come.
@NWL
It is a good point. What are macro postgrads doing these days?
NWL
i wonder if you noticed today’s news: the state (“related party”) rewrites the rules of the recapitalization plan of the Bank of Ireland to give itself cheap shares (30% below market) in the event the offer from new york hedgies to recapitalize the bank comes through. if you have seen it, did this fact not give you a pause? does Ireland actually have securities laws that rule things like capital transactions, or are the rules more or less made up by the state as it goes on to suit itself? i am prepared to believe anything about your beautiful country now: what will we see tomorrow? laws taking effect retroactively?
as for Spain… i honestly think there are only two alternatives for the Euro: fiscal union or.. bust.
@Reg, I did indeed see the development you describe and am composing the final part of the “Burning the bondholders” series for publication over the next day or two, which will allude to the draconian measures adopted by the government. But at this stage, you will have sensed the resolve of the government and know how much generally the Irish nation is contributing to the banking sector. Yes BoI is the healthiest on paper, but set that against a nation that is contributing the best part of €70bn to the banks, funded from borrowings from our partners in Europe (including the UK) who will profit to the tune of some €7bn from loans, and I think the reaction here will be one of professional sympathy but practically we understand and support the government in pursuing this policy of burden sharing.
As for Europe and the euro, fiscal union, quantitative easing or bust,
NWL
“but practically we understand and support the government in pursuing this policy of burden sharing”
In violation of your own laws?
Besides… how can this be about burden sharing? What is the logic here: the Irish government has made a very expensive mistake guaranteeing the loans of bad banks; in order to recoup those losses it will steal a good bank from investors?
A group of private investors have offered to recapitalize the bank completely in a plan that would not cost Ireland a penny. Why does Noonan not accept it? It couldn’t be because he prefers to spend tax payers money in order to acquire for himself the political patronage that will come with full control of Bank of Ireland?
@Reg
For reasons that were never clear to me the last and current governments have appeared to want to keep some element of the pillar banks in private hands i.e. on the stock market. At several critical points they could have easily acquired 100% of both banks for under a billion euro. Instead they came up with schemes based on preference shares etc. to inject cash while avoiding majority stakes etc. The long term plan was to straighten out the banks and then sell the government’s interest into the market over the coming years when the dust has settled. As you point out an offer appears to be emerging from the private sector to sort out BOI’s remaining capital issues without further state investment but with possible substantial dilution of of its existing stake. Interesting times.
@Reg,
Indeed I think there is professional sympathy, regardless of whether you’re a pensioner who bought the PIBS years ago close to par and have been enjoying 13%+ interest in recent years when you’ll have been lucky to get 5% in bank accounts/ISA, or you’re a fast money fund that bought the PIBS at a 50% discount and now face a 10% loss.
As regards breaking Irish law, it would seem that 86% of AIB subordinated bondholders have accepted the offers proffered.
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110614-711043.html
You are arguing that Bank of Ireland is different. And indeed it may be. I say “may” because Bank of Ireland has been treated with kid gloves, with the Government suspending NAMA transfers which would crystallise loan losses now. And by the way, a long-held suspicion on here has centred on the curiosity of BoI’s loans being materially better than AIB’s, with anecdotal evidence suggesting BoI was just as reckless and buccaneering at the height of the boom. Perhaps once NAMA has completed its due diligence on the BoI later-tranche loans, there might be additional losses imposed. It’s just a hunch.
But if it is different and no doubt you want to ringfence and differentiate BoI from the others, it is only different on a narrow interpretation. BoI would be massively insolvent without State aid, without the State guaranteeing its collateral for ECB non-standard liquidity operations, without the State guaranteeing its €750m bond issue last year. The State owns 36.5% of BoI, can hire and fire directors, can direct conversion of preference to ordinary shares as it did in the rights issue last year. I understand your wish to portray BoI as a relatively healthy independent bank, but I don’t think that view would get much sympathy here.
Thanks for this NWL and congratulations on your indefatigable efforts.
Edward Hugh, who is based in Barcelona, provides a lot of insightful stuff on the Spanish economy.
http://spaineconomy.blogspot.com
Property is as suspect as you say, and it’s just part of the problem. Government finances are complex and opaque, with lots of debts hidden away at regional and local level. The recent regional elections were bad for Zapatero, and the new regimes are going to be hauling these skeletons out of the closet. Catalonia is already bubbling.
@ Reg
There is the little matter that BoI would be long gone if it were not for the billions pumped into it by Paddy. The term ‘stealing’ is hardly reasonable.
Trouble in the regional and local banks (cajas) and maybe even in the big boys too.
‘Simon Adamson, a banks analyst at CreditSights, said it was clear many eurozone banks had been having trouble funding themselves for several months.
“Clearly there are some banks that are finding it difficult to access markets. I think this is a long term sign of the way the markets are going,” he said.
Spanish banks have become the main focus of market concerns with the latest European Central Bank (ECB) figures showing that Spanish banks have been forced to increase their use of ECB lending facilities and borrowed a total of €58bn (£51bn) in May, up from €44bn in April.
“We have been amazed at the ability of Spanish banks to find ways to fund themselves, but it is clear they are running out of options,” said one senior analyst at a major investment bank’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8584442/UK-banks-abandon-eurozone-over-Greek-default-fears.html
@NWL
I am not trying to raise your sympathy. I know not to expect it, and in any case it wouldn’t be worth much. But what the govt did yesterday was steal from BoI shareholders (who are mostly Irish) in violation of your own Irish laws (a 36% shareholder directing the company to sell its stock to him below market price!). I suppose, it’s no skin off your nose if your government haircuts foreigners’ bonds even if it does so in violation of contract terms ruled by English Law. But on Saturday, your government clearly violated Irish securities laws – your own laws – its own laws. It did not rewrite them — as it could have by simply passing a law in the Dail — perhaps controversially but all the same legally; it could not be bothered: it’s just violated them, as if your own laws did not oblige your government. Think about it. It’s your country. You will have to live in it, not me. I have sold my bonds and let others worry about your country’s problems. But you — what will you do?
Hopefully let the banks and their shareholders and bondholders go tits up. The government’s intervention was illegal from the get go.
@Reg, other than the politeness of the sentiment which hopefully supports civil exchanges, no my sympathy has little if any euro/pound value. If you want to get a sense of local feeling, you need to understand that we were aghast at the €440bn blanket guarantee given to the banks after a cabinet meeting involving two ministers (the Taoiseach and Minister for Finance, though there was an incorporeal meeting where others were told what was happening) in september 2008, we were shocked at the subsequent emergence of losses and in some cases shenanigans, we were very concerned at the creation of the “World’s Biggest Property Company”, NAMA. But what really upset us was three of the most austere budgets which will be followed by at least three more, the 1% pension levy this year when 1% of our pension funds will be appropriated by the Govt (it’s 0.6% for 7 months which means it’s 1% for the year) – new wages levies, lowering of tax bands, property tax, water charges, second homes tax, withdrawal or diminution of public services which are to a large extent required to pay off some €70bn put into our banks which enable them to pay anything to bondholders.
As for business and law here generally, yes we were very concerned by the Credit Institutions (Stabilisation) Act which saw some our journalists rushing through the Dublin snow last December to a secretly convened court hearing to examine AIB, only to be excluded by the judge. We are concerned at the proposal to abolish Upward Only Rent Review commercial leases which business tenants are crying out for but which may do immense damage to our property industry, and worse the Minister for Justice and Equality hasn’t given us any detailed plan in the last 100 days of office.
And yes, we are concerned at the image of our country to international financial investors. But as far as banks are concerned, again, we don’t see them returning to debt markets for some years, maybe a decade. And although existing investors in bonds may be very unhappy, in the context of €70bn generally going from citizens’ pockets to the banks and with our partners in Europe and the UK profiting by about €7bn from their loans, well…
By the way, what is it you specifically think is unlawful about yesterday’s developments?
“We don’t like the Spanish financial sector. The problem is real estate. We think house prices are still about 40 percent overvalued,” said Antonio Hormigas, Chairman of Mirabaud Gestion, the Spanish unit of one of the oldest Swiss private banking firms.
http://www.forexyard.com/en/news/FUND-VIEW-Mirabaud-shuns-Spains-banks-on-real-estate-woes-2011-06-17T125207Z#{“widget_height”:{“widget”:”registration”,%20″height”:309}}
The Bankia IPO in July is flagged as an important event. It would be more interesting if they had tried to float with some non-performing assets. Even with BBVA saying shares will be sold at a 30 percent discount to book value, I wouldn’t be jumping in.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-04-06/caja-madrid-group-excludes-foreclosed-land-from-bankia-ipo.html
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