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P Elliot group facing an uncertain future as loans transfer to NAMA

April 22, 2011 by namawinelake

Cavan-based construction and development company, the P Elliot Group is reported to have laid-off staff yesterday after a tense meeting with suppliers and sub-contractors. A hardware and building supplies shop owned by the group is also rumoured to be shutting down. There does not appear to be any official statement by the company and the Irish Times reports that no-one from the Group was available for comment yesterday.

The Irish Times goes on to report that it is “understood” that loans that the Group has from Bank of Ireland and Anglo have transferred to NAMA, though it is further stated that the assets and underlying security for the loans are “said” to be good quality.

According to the company’s website “the Elliott family business was founded in 1942 by the late Patrick & Alice Elliott, grandparents of the current owners.  That year, the business won its first construction contract.  Now, over sixty years later, the organisation has developed into one ofIreland’s leading property development and construction firms with a turnover in 2006 of €300m.” It goes on to say that it employs 250 people, though the Irish Times puts it at 230 in 2009 and says that number may have reduced since. Outside ofIreland, the company has offices in theUK andSaudi Arabia.

The current board includes Noel Elliot, both Senior and Junior, and Mark and Darragh Elliot. The company claims the following commercial and residential developments as “notable” Cavan Retail Park, Lakeland Retail Park, Cavan ,Pullamore Business Park, Cavan , Newcourt Shopping Centre, Cavan , Townspark Centre, Cavan, Verschoyle House, Mount Street, Dublin 2, Cookstown Court, Tallaght, Dublin 24, Units at Ballymount Industrial Estate, Units at Bray Business Park, Units at Donore Industrial Estate, Drogheda, Irish Times Building, d’Olier Street, Dublin 2, Residential Site at Stepaside, Co Dublin, Kilcock Residential Site, Carrington, Northwood, Santry, Dublin 9, York Street, Belfast, Mixed Development Site at Pullamore Far, Cavan and PriorsGate, Tallaght, Dublin 24

There is no suggestion in any reporting that NAMA is behind current developments at the P Elliot Group.

UPDATE: 4th May, 2011. It is reported in today’s Irish Times that at least one creditor has served the Elliot’s with a 21-day payment notice, on the expiry of which the creditor may seek to have the group wound up. The creditor in question is OMC Engineering which the newspaper claims is due €100,000.

UPDATE: 17th May, 2011. P Elliot got a temporary reprieve yesterday when a creditor reportedly owed €1.7m sought an adjournment for two weeks to allow its claim to be correctly advertised.  There are now at least four creditors chasing P Elliot for money through the courts,  the participants in yesterday’s case, construction recruiter MCR Personnel,  William Cox Ireland, Oran Precast and OMC Engineering.

UPDATE: 19th May, 2011. News this evening from RTE that a (unnamed) receiver has been appointed to the group.

UPDATE: 20th May, 2011. Further reporting today on the appointment of receivers. The Irish Times reports that the joint receivers are Kieran Wallace and Cormac O’Connor of KPMG and there is the quite startling claim that the group (which includes a related company, Dewside Limited) owes over €0.5bn to creditors which include NAMA (which has taken on loans from Anglo), Bank of  Scotland (Ireland), ACC and Bank of Ireland. Subbies are owed in excess of €20m alone.

UPDATE: 21st May, 2011. The Irish Times today reports that the group owes €120m, not €500m as suggested by some reports.  The appointment of receivers was at the behest of the group itself in the face of various recovery actions by creditors.  The newspaper goes with the headline that the group wrote off €43m from the value of its property in its 2009 accounts.

UPDATE: 23rd May, 2011. The Sunday Business Post adds a little more information to the receivership. The newspaper claims that directors of the group have loans from the group “running to tens of millions of euro, and have given substantial personal guarantees to the banks. ” and also that subbies may be owed €50m once related companies in the P Elliott group are taken into account.

UPDATE: 24th May, 2011. Of not a great deal of significance, the Irish Times today reports that two creditors, William Cox Ireland and Oran Precast , who had sought winding-up orders, have withdrawn their applications now that a receiver has been appointed to the company.

UPDATE: 1st June, 2011. The Irish Times confirms that the joint receivers, Kieran Wallace and Cormac O’Connor of KPMG, are now in control of 15 Elliott companies including (1) Elliott Holdings (2) P Elliott Company (3) Hillqueen (4) Flag Properties (Cavan) (5) Elliott Steel Fabricators (6) Woodskills (7) AMG Facades

UPDATE: 10th June, 2011. The BBC reports that the Northern Irish operations of the P Elliott group have been placed in court-ordered liquidation. The liquidator is not disclosed. This move was widely expected.

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  1. on April 22, 2011 at 1:44 pm who_shot_the_tiger

    Very sad. Another casualty. Good builders. Excellent honourable people in every way. I wish them well.


  2. on April 22, 2011 at 1:51 pm JP

    They also have a JV with Ray Grehan which bought Windsor House office block in Belfast for £30m in 2006.

    They’re also lead contractor on a big hospital project in Enniskillen.


  3. on April 22, 2011 at 5:13 pm jbyrne

    This crowd were bad to bone.
    They forced subcontractors to buy materials from homemakers as an unwritten part of the contract.
    They then refused to pay money until homemakers were payed first.
    They have only stayed going this long buy attempting to rip off subcontractors of sometimes vast amounts of money.
    Apparently some of their directors left recently because a new business plan was suggested that involved burning sub contractors to save money.
    I must say that I was one of those contractors so I may be prejudiced.
    But they won´t be missed in the industry from the people I have spoken to.


  4. on April 22, 2011 at 5:28 pm who_shot_the_tiger

    As Frederick Langbridge said:

    “Two men look out through the same bars: One sees the mud and one the stars.”


  5. on April 23, 2011 at 7:05 am Jmpt

    Agree 100% with jbyrne. They only managed to survive this long by burning others, holding off on (sometimes very large) payments to contractors, sometimes refusing outright to pay…but at the same time chasing and harassing anyone who owed them money.

    I always felt sorry for the poor girl who worked in the main office as every Friday she had to deal with countless people harassing her about their promised cheques not being sent. I feel very sorry for any members of their staff, particularly homemakers as I knew a few people there, who have been let go but not for the Elliotts themselves!!


  6. on April 24, 2011 at 1:31 pm Common Sense

    There were not that different to all other developers ..often obnoxious and thought they were better than everyone ..
    had the boys ( and they are boys) nominated for young entrepeneur of the year but mr mackey was behind their temporary rise.

    David mackey was behind their rise but he did it in the 2003 and 2006 period so likely they have grosssly overpaid for sites etc.

    Mackey brough the quinn logic with him and look where that ended up ..

    unfortunate for ordinary workers and guys left stung bu them ..will they stil live in all the big houses …


  7. on May 12, 2011 at 6:32 pm camross1@eircom.net

    Hi Folks

    very very sad day”!
    These are decent people, let down by ‘fairweather Banks ‘

    Noel Elliot ment well, and i can tell you he has lost alot of sleep over this.

    They mean well, but are a victim of circumstances
    as we all well know!!!

    We have worked for them in the past amnd always got paid in full.
    they are a decent family that ment well

    Paddy keyes
    Camross Landscapes


  8. on May 17, 2011 at 8:16 am comon sense

    If they had a big success there were smart guys but now it is all the banks fault ..

    The guys were adults and got greedy and cocky as simple as that ..the whole country did

    unfortunatly for them they did the real big expansion from 2003 onwards when things were over priced the most ..

    they did loose the run of themselves ..they were supposed to be buying up most of cavan town for high prices and then going to knock and build ..they also placed all there eggs in one basket.

    It was their friends in FF who are mostly to blame who refused to regulate the banks and the planning system properly …running the country for the quick buck merchants in the development game


  9. on August 31, 2011 at 3:55 pm Former employee

    I worked for this shower during the boom in a management role. They were even then a despicable unethical shower that considered themselves to be better and smarter than everyone else. I feel sorry for the people who find themselves out of work and owed money by the Elliotts. But I have no sympathy whatsoever for them and wish them the worst. What goes around comes around.


    • on May 10, 2012 at 12:10 pm Priorsgate

      Does anyone know how I would contact this company? I live in their development in Tallaght and have several issues but cant find a way of contacting them? any info greatfully appreciated.


  10. on April 20, 2012 at 7:05 pm G

    http://www.insolvencyjournal.ie/home_more_details/12-04-18/Appointment_of_Joint_Receivers_and_Managers_Flag_Properties_Cavan_Limited.aspx

    flag properties


  11. on May 10, 2012 at 1:25 pm John Gallaher

    @priorsgate,try Kieran Wallace,receiver at KPMG.
    http://www.kpmg.com/ie/en/directory/pages/kieranwallace.aspx



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