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The frightening damage being done to the National Pension Reserve Fund by using its funds to prop up our banking system

October 29, 2010 by namawinelake

Remember those two investments of €3.5bn apiece made by the National Pension Reserve Fund (NPRF) in our two main banks, Bank of Ireland and Allied Irish Banks? Remember that these investments were in preference shares in both banks, paying a princely 8% per annum? Of course the pesky EU forbade those two banks paying out the 8% dividend in cash so we acquired ordinary shares instead  – 198,089,847 ordinary shares from AIB on 13th May 2010 then worth €280m (8% of €3.5bn) and 184,394,378 ordinary shares from BoI on 20th February, 2010 then worth €250.4m (7.2% of €3.5bn because BoI made the distribution over a month before the anniversary of the investment). If you’re of a nervous disposition, look away now because below are the current values of those dividends – yes we received less than a 2% return from AIB and 3.1% from BoI.

So the NPRF which was set up to manage pensions for future generations of our citizens is achieving an average return of 2.5% on €7bn of the €22.3bn total funds under management by the NPRF at the end of 2009. And whilst the €3.5bn invested in BoI is relatively safe for the time being, the same cannot be said of the €3.5bn in AIB which may suffer some deterioration in value. So an average of a 2.5% return then, during a year when globally stock markets rebounded in spectacular fashion – see below. I have used the mid-point of the two investments as the starting point – 20th April, 2009.

Now it is true that some have seen value in Bank of Ireland at these price levels. On 11th October, 2010 (when Bank of Ireland had a trading range of €0.63-0.68), analyst Gary McCarthy at UK brokerage Collins Stewart was talking up the stock with the not unrealistic notion that as the best capitalised of the domestic banks, it should be best placed to take advantage of any upturn with its dominant position in the market place. Two weeks later we are nearly 20% off that day’s mid-prices though it is fair to say that bank shares are volatile at present.

That the €7bn was unwisely invested by reference to 20-20 hindsight is one thing – that we are contemplating using more NPRF funds to prop up the banks is truly worrying – particularly to cover AIB. The government might say that without the banks there won’t be an economy for our pensioners to enjoy their pensions, but that would imply that we are willing to conceal the true cost of the bailouts and put in jeopardy the pensions of this generation.

UPDATE: 29th October, 2010. I am reminded that the NPRF has “agreed” (been “directed” more like) to underwrite the forthcoming AIB share issue. From AIB Investor Relations “A €5.4 billion equity capital raising will be launched during November which will be completed before 31 December 2010.  This equity capital raising will be fully underwritten by the National Pensions Reserve Fund Commission (“NPRFC”) at a fixed price of €0.50 per new ordinary share, which represents a discount of approximately 9.4 per cent to the official closing price of an ordinary share on the Irish Stock Exchange on 29 September 2010. “. With a price of €0.34 today, the NPRF will not only be picking up all the shares but will be realising a loss from Day 1 of €1.728bn. Actually this is probably the bigger story.

UPDATE: 30th October, 2010. The NPRF last night issued its Q3, 2010 performance report which shows that the €7bn investment in AIB and BoI is now worth €6.615bn. It is unclear how the investment has gone negative. The Independent today reminds us of the €1.8bn loss that will be made on Day One of the AIB share issue.

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  1. on October 29, 2010 at 9:10 am Ask Leinster House - News from Irish Poilitics

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  3. on October 29, 2010 at 11:02 am Oh Dear

    So, as at 29th October 2010, for AIB with 1,080,845,303 shares in issue @ €0.34 per share AIB has a market cap of €367,487,403.

    Of which 198,089,847 shares are held by the NPRF. Paid €280,000,000, currently worth €67,350,548. An unrealised loss of €212,649,452 or 76%.

    If the state (via the NPRF) had to put (say) €5bn into AIB ordinary shares (@€0.34) the number issued would be 14,705,882,353.

    Total in issue would then be 15,786,727,656, with the NPRF holding 14,773,232,901 or 93.6%.

    For €4bn the NPRF holds 92.11%.

    For €3.5bn the NPRF holds 91.09%.

    For €3bn the NPRF holds 89.77%.

    And that’s without converting the €3.5bn of Preference Shares at full value.

    I wonder how they can sell this horror story.


  4. on October 29, 2010 at 11:39 pm Scarab

    Remember that we no londger hold 3.5bn preference shares in BOI due to NPRF participation in their capital raising.

    Original Investment – 3.5bn pref shares
    Coupon paid on pref shares – 250.4m in ordinary shares currently worth 97.7m
    Conversion of preference shares to ordinary shares as part of rights issue – 1.663bn pref shares to 1.663bn ordinary shares currently worth 909.2m
    I guess it should also be pointed out that NPRF received 542m for redemption of their warrants and arrangement fees.
    Valuing the accrued coupon due our remaining 1.837bn in preference shares at the revised rate of 10.25% is 130m (252 days).
    Total of all that is that 3.5bn is now 3.516!


    • on October 30, 2010 at 10:35 am namawinelake

      Thanks Scarab for that – so a 0.3% return on BoI annualised in overall terms! Of course with hindsight it was a dreadful investment and during a period when world stock markets enjoyed one of their greatest recoveries in history, it is tragic that 1/3rd of our NPRF saw a return of less than 2%. But that is the past. In the next few weeks AIB is scheduled to launch its equity capital raising bid and given the likelihood the NPRF will need shell out €5.4bn on shares at €0.50 each when they finished trading yesterday at €0.337, that means the nation will lose €1,760m in one transaction. Why should the remaining 5% private shareholders in AIB see any remaining value in their shares – isn’t it time to fully nationalise AIB and recognise that like Anglo, INBS, EBS it is going to cost us several €bn to bail it out.


      • on October 30, 2010 at 8:38 pm Scarab

        Yes i think it is time to nationalise, the current share price is telling us that the common stock holders are insolvent to the tune of 1.36bn (current 1.08bn shares plus 10.8bn gov = 11.9bn x 34c = 4bn – 5.4bn gov = -1.4bn current shareholder value), the bank remaining technically solvent by the inclusion of 3.5bn preference shares as capital. At these valuations the government should be taking 100% of the bank with the rights of shareholders dissolved.

        Incidentally the current share price indicates future losses of about 6.7bn from June 2010 in AIB – how does this tally with your expectation of future losses on NAMA transfers?


      • on October 31, 2010 at 11:32 am namawinelake

        Many thanks for the comments though I am still trying to tie the BoI conversion of pref shares announced by the Minister/NPRF in April (link below) with the present position.

        As regards AIB’s losses post June 2010. Looking at NAMA the Minister is now saying that NAMA estimates the discount on the AIB tranche after tranche 2 to be 60%. Is 60% adequate? I don’t know but I do know that the lower value loan exposures will have less associated lending and will be more purely land and development. And as we know development land has dropped 75-90% from peak here. We also know of the practice whereby borrowers topped up lending as LTVs reduced until the peak so there is a fair argument to say that many land and development loans will be down 75-90% from an LTV of 75% so 60% may be an underestimate and my gut feeling is that the discount will be 60-70%. But taking the 60% that the Minister announced in September and comparing that with the 26% (!, yes seriously) provision in the last interim report and applying it to €12bn of remaining loans (60-26)*€12bn will give you €4bn of additional NAMA losses. Remember though that the raising of the threshold from €5bn to €20bn removed another €4.5bn of AIB loans so (60-26)*4.5 = another €1.5bn. The non-NAMA and sub €5m land and development loans are more difficult but my gut feel is that the €50bn remaining with AIB that relates to commercial property and commercial lending is vastly underprovisioned and the economic outlook remains muted-weak here, so you could very easily have another €1.2bn+ of losses there (wouldn’t be surprised by another €5bn in fact). On the other hand if I am reading the accounts correctly AIB have €4bn+ of junior bondholders who might be persuaded to give up a few billion. But yes overall insolvent, and should be nationalised unless there is a strong economic argument to support there being two “Irish” banks.

        Click to access BOICapitalRaising.pdf


      • on October 31, 2010 at 12:02 pm Scarab

        On the BOI conversion and rights issue….

        First 575,555,556 ordinary shares subscribed for at 1.80 per share = 1.036bn which was paid for by conversion of 1.036bn preference shares at 1.00

        Add to that the 184,394,378 shares received in lieu of the preference coupon gives a total shareholding pre rights issue of 759,949,934.

        The rights issue was 3 for 2 at a price of 55c which means the government took up 1,139,924,901 shares at 55c = circa 627m, this was paid for with a further 627m preference shares, leaving the government with about 1.9bn ord shares and 1.837 pref shares.


    • on October 30, 2010 at 2:58 pm namawinelake

      The NPRF published their Q3, 2010 performance update last night and though it’s not clear how,say that the €7bn investment in AIB and BoI is now worth €6.6bn representing a loss of nearly 6% in 18 months (is this because they’re valuing warrants at zero).

      Click to access Q32010NPRFPerformance.pdf

      The Independent today reports on the €1.8bn Day One loss that will be made by the NPRF when the AIB share issue goes ahead. The loss is buried towards the end of the article.

      http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/national-pension-fund-loses-euro400m-in-aib-and-boi-deals-2400536.html


      • on October 30, 2010 at 8:55 pm Scarab

        BOI – Pref Coupon 184.4m shares, Conversion 575.6m shares, rights issue 1139.9m shares = 1900m shares total x 62c (price at 30/9) = 1.178bn + 1.837bn pref shares at par = 3.015bn

        (add income received of 542m + accrual of pref coupon of 130.5m – movement in share price to date of 171m to get my figure of 3.516bn)

        AIB – Pref Coupon Shares 198.1m x 51c (price at 30/9) = 101m + 3.5bn preference shares at par = 3.601bn

        Total = 3.015 + 3.601 = 6.616bn per NPRF statement.


  5. on October 30, 2010 at 11:34 am Oh Dear

    Scarab

    Love the pseudonym.

    A dung beetle. Oh Dear.

    Yeah. AIB is a bit difficult to defend.

    “Remember that we no londger hold 3.5bn preference shares in BOI due to NPRF participation in their capital raising.”

    “Original Investment – 3.5bn pref shares Coupon paid on pref shares – 250.4m in ordinary shares currently worth 97.7m”

    Small point but the “original investment” was not “3.5bn pref shares” it was €3.5bn of hard cash.

    And the €97.7m “worth” used to be “worth” €250m. No?

    Let’s not argue about pennies here. Let’s just call that what it is. A loss of €150m.

    “Conversion of preference shares to ordinary shares as part of rights issue – 1.663bn pref shares to 1.663bn ordinary shares currently worth 909.2m”

    So that would be €1.663bn (€1,036m subscription & €627m rights taken up) now worth €909.2m?

    The €1,036m bought 576m ordinary shares. The €627m bought 1,324m ordinary shares.

    Total ordinary shares 1,900m @ 0.54 (Friday 30th October 2010) = €1,026m.

    A loss of €640m.!!!

    Let’s see? Where are we so far? A loss of €790m. No?

    Oh, and not a hope in hell of ever getting another penny in preference dividends. No?

    Can we add (so the sake of argument) ten years of preference dividend @ €280 per annum?

    That’s right a loss of €2.8bn (present value calculations excepted).

    That would be excluding the first year dividend that was never paid.

    I wonder what the perpetual value of €280m per annum is at say a discount rate of five percent.

    “I guess it should also be pointed out that NPRF received 542m for redemption of their warrants and arrangement fees.”

    “Valuing the accrued coupon due our remaining 1.837bn in preference shares at the revised rate of 10.25% is 130m (252 days).

    Well happy days. I was unaware that the EU had lifted the ban on protected Irish banks paying preference dividends.

    “Total of all that is that 3.5bn is now 3.516!”

    Yippee. A gain of €16m on €3,500m.

    Or a loss of €150m + €640m + €2,800m = €3.5bn.

    Depending on how you calculate it.

    Aren’t numbers fun.



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