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		<title>By: Mirielle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mirielle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Start by ousting the female clerks and many &#039;technical&#039; males in the Local Authorities.  These are no more than a &#039;pool of voters&#039; paid and bought.   They even begin to intrinsically believe that their view of any of the public that asks a question, is the absolutely only view that exists.  
A contract of 3 years in the job; 7 years out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start by ousting the female clerks and many &#8216;technical&#8217; males in the Local Authorities.  These are no more than a &#8216;pool of voters&#8217; paid and bought.   They even begin to intrinsically believe that their view of any of the public that asks a question, is the absolutely only view that exists.<br />
A contract of 3 years in the job; 7 years out.</p>
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		<title>By: OMF</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OMF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I no longer view Dail Eireann or the Irish State as legitimate organs of parliamentary democracy or governance in this country; these institutions now exist solely for the personal gains of a criminal ascendancy and its dependents.

With every stroke, every corrupt and unjust decision, every abuse of power, and with every raid on the public purse to placate foreign creditors and pamper domestic aristocrats, the authority, legitimacy, and public respect for the government and the state has been eroded, brick by brick, to the point where I am not sure that there is enough respect left to base a state on anymore.

But I don&#039;t agree with those calling for our &quot;German&quot; overlords to take over the country, nor with any remaining hanger&#039;s on calling for a return to the UK, or wild eyed Atlanticans who dream of joining the US. Nor do I agree with those twin relics of the Cold War, the communists calling for the seizure of the means of production, and the capitalists croaking on about labour costs and the welfare state. Nor do I believe in impotent protests, &quot;Occupy-tions&quot;, trade union farces, or any other plastic banner movements.

I believe that the only way life is going to improve for Irish people is if they stop waiting for help from rotten, incompetent and useless organizations -- like FG, Labour, state agencies, the EU, the banks, the &quot;markets&quot;, the media and the Occupy movement -- and actually start doing something to help themselves. Irish people are going to have to start organizing themselves, by themselves; starting at local level, fighting incompetence and corruption in local government, voting out existing political parties, and working up from there to national level.

There are no silver bullets; the rot in our society is systemic. The rancid stink from the Dail is the symptom of a deeper decay that runs into every council, burough, and parish in the land. The roots of this rotten fungus lie in the petty outrages and corruption that takes place down the chain, which ultimately sprouts the poison caps of our national political life.

Any &quot;revolution&quot;, &quot;rebellion&quot; or &quot;second republic&quot; would only cut the mushrooms and leave the roots undisturbed. To really fix this country, people in Ireland will have to start small, stay principled, and work relentlessly up from the very bottom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I no longer view Dail Eireann or the Irish State as legitimate organs of parliamentary democracy or governance in this country; these institutions now exist solely for the personal gains of a criminal ascendancy and its dependents.</p>
<p>With every stroke, every corrupt and unjust decision, every abuse of power, and with every raid on the public purse to placate foreign creditors and pamper domestic aristocrats, the authority, legitimacy, and public respect for the government and the state has been eroded, brick by brick, to the point where I am not sure that there is enough respect left to base a state on anymore.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t agree with those calling for our &#8220;German&#8221; overlords to take over the country, nor with any remaining hanger&#8217;s on calling for a return to the UK, or wild eyed Atlanticans who dream of joining the US. Nor do I agree with those twin relics of the Cold War, the communists calling for the seizure of the means of production, and the capitalists croaking on about labour costs and the welfare state. Nor do I believe in impotent protests, &#8220;Occupy-tions&#8221;, trade union farces, or any other plastic banner movements.</p>
<p>I believe that the only way life is going to improve for Irish people is if they stop waiting for help from rotten, incompetent and useless organizations &#8212; like FG, Labour, state agencies, the EU, the banks, the &#8220;markets&#8221;, the media and the Occupy movement &#8212; and actually start doing something to help themselves. Irish people are going to have to start organizing themselves, by themselves; starting at local level, fighting incompetence and corruption in local government, voting out existing political parties, and working up from there to national level.</p>
<p>There are no silver bullets; the rot in our society is systemic. The rancid stink from the Dail is the symptom of a deeper decay that runs into every council, burough, and parish in the land. The roots of this rotten fungus lie in the petty outrages and corruption that takes place down the chain, which ultimately sprouts the poison caps of our national political life.</p>
<p>Any &#8220;revolution&#8221;, &#8220;rebellion&#8221; or &#8220;second republic&#8221; would only cut the mushrooms and leave the roots undisturbed. To really fix this country, people in Ireland will have to start small, stay principled, and work relentlessly up from the very bottom.</p>
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		<title>By: roc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s as simple as that. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s as simple as that.<br />
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		<title>By: OMF</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OMF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Irish people elected those politicians. We have chosen to be governed in this way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Irish people elected those politicians. We have chosen to be governed in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: John Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bunbury, you absolutely hit the nail on the head. Have 2 college kids in my family and have aleady been advising them to plan for a life abroad in a country where there at least a nodding acquaintance with the rule of law and public accountability for politicians and public servants. Their alternative is to remain and, assuming they actually get jobs, become tax slaves to pay for the corrupt and bizarre decisions of crooked politicians!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bunbury, you absolutely hit the nail on the head. Have 2 college kids in my family and have aleady been advising them to plan for a life abroad in a country where there at least a nodding acquaintance with the rule of law and public accountability for politicians and public servants. Their alternative is to remain and, assuming they actually get jobs, become tax slaves to pay for the corrupt and bizarre decisions of crooked politicians!</p>
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		<title>By: Bunbury</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bunbury]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 21:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately this is just standard stroke politics and is accepted by Labour. It is how Ireland operates. I work in the HSE and there is no &#039;master list&#039; of Primary Care Centre sites. The list is just something that can be added to or subtracted from at the whim of a senior HSE Manager, the Minister, or any Government politician. No one has a clear definition of just what exactly Primary Care Centres are supposed to do so every site in the country is a potential purchase by the HSE. I could get my granny&#039;s garden shed purchased as a potential Primary Care Centre by contacting &#039;the right people&#039; in the HSE or in the Minister&#039;s Office.

As I work in the HSE and therefore being a public servant, I&#039;m doing relatively well in this age of austerity. As a parent of school-going children though I have come to the conclusion over the last number of years (and having started out as a fervent Nationalist) that as a country/race we are simply incapable of governing ourselves properly. I see now why Prof Tol left the country as he believed the Irish State would not be capable in the years ahead of educating his children. The sooner we are taken over by some sort of German-dominated technocratic government the better. We might not reverse emigration or reach our full economic potential but we surely have a better chance of having some type of accountability and the opportunity to live under the rule of law and not some place where you can get your penalty points quashed by knowing the right people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately this is just standard stroke politics and is accepted by Labour. It is how Ireland operates. I work in the HSE and there is no &#8216;master list&#8217; of Primary Care Centre sites. The list is just something that can be added to or subtracted from at the whim of a senior HSE Manager, the Minister, or any Government politician. No one has a clear definition of just what exactly Primary Care Centres are supposed to do so every site in the country is a potential purchase by the HSE. I could get my granny&#8217;s garden shed purchased as a potential Primary Care Centre by contacting &#8216;the right people&#8217; in the HSE or in the Minister&#8217;s Office.</p>
<p>As I work in the HSE and therefore being a public servant, I&#8217;m doing relatively well in this age of austerity. As a parent of school-going children though I have come to the conclusion over the last number of years (and having started out as a fervent Nationalist) that as a country/race we are simply incapable of governing ourselves properly. I see now why Prof Tol left the country as he believed the Irish State would not be capable in the years ahead of educating his children. The sooner we are taken over by some sort of German-dominated technocratic government the better. We might not reverse emigration or reach our full economic potential but we surely have a better chance of having some type of accountability and the opportunity to live under the rule of law and not some place where you can get your penalty points quashed by knowing the right people.</p>
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		<title>By: Please Tell Me I'm Wrong</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Please Tell Me I'm Wrong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we please stop using folksy terms like &quot;stroke politics&quot; and &quot;pork barrel politics&quot; ? This so-called selection process was a blatant and ugly act of discrimination which violated the civil rights of citizens. What&#039;s even worse is the endorsement of this culture by the political and media establishment. Yet the same people get all indignant and huffy when organisations like Transparency International suggest that Ireland has a real problem with corruption in public life? There are none so blind as those who will not see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we please stop using folksy terms like &#8220;stroke politics&#8221; and &#8220;pork barrel politics&#8221; ? This so-called selection process was a blatant and ugly act of discrimination which violated the civil rights of citizens. What&#8217;s even worse is the endorsement of this culture by the political and media establishment. Yet the same people get all indignant and huffy when organisations like Transparency International suggest that Ireland has a real problem with corruption in public life? There are none so blind as those who will not see.</p>
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		<title>By: namawinelake</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[namawinelake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 17:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might recall Brian Lenihan saying 

&quot;the [NAMA] Bill includes a specific provision to outlaw lobbying of NAMA in relation to any of its decisions. Only a borrower and his or her agents will be authorised to deal with NAMA. It will be an offence to influence the Agency in the course of its work&quot;

But in truth the NAMA Act seems to be completely useless in its anti-lobbying section and indeed we now know that NAMA has provided a dedicated email address to TDs and senators to communicate with the agency - oir@nama.ie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might recall Brian Lenihan saying </p>
<p>&#8220;the [NAMA] Bill includes a specific provision to outlaw lobbying of NAMA in relation to any of its decisions. Only a borrower and his or her agents will be authorised to deal with NAMA. It will be an offence to influence the Agency in the course of its work&#8221;</p>
<p>But in truth the NAMA Act seems to be completely useless in its anti-lobbying section and indeed we now know that NAMA has provided a dedicated email address to TDs and senators to communicate with the agency &#8211; <a href="mailto:oir@nama.ie">oir@nama.ie</a></p>
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		<title>By: www.politicalworld.org</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[www.politicalworld.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 17:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the legal situation that applies to politicians lobbying NAMA ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the legal situation that applies to politicians lobbying NAMA ?</p>
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