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		<title>By: Joseph Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Activist

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Activist</p>
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		<title>By: Activist investor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Activist investor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comment to FT editor on &quot;Dublin&#039;s shame&quot;-

What a poor article and an editorial at that. Whilst I fully agree with the editorials general thrust it displays a typical lack of local understanding about Irish issues, the real facts, the differences with the UK. It ignores the collective responsibility in Eire that contributed to these issues. It lays the accusers, and not just the attempt at a sound bite from AIB&#039;s new puppet like CEO (who I recollect readily dished out big pensions in his investment banking past and then not a peep about retrieval) in this matter bare to hypocritical. For instance, how come you didn&#039;t bring out the current scandal about their PM being paid more than ours, Merkel, Holland etc? That despite the arrival of the Troika who are swanning it in Dublin&#039;s best restaurants etc the politicians have just paid themselves outrageous pensions, perks etc and which is a current scandal ! That old Anglo Irish bank are back to their old tricks paying enormous salaries again-Their CEO&#039;s perks and pensions in 2010 were greater than the PM&#039;s salary-another front page scandal but ignored by you! That Bank of Ireland gave the two fingers !! That those public servants involved in this crisis have not been targeted and continue to languish. And your argument ignores the legal differences, the individuals rights, the moral issue of trying to single one section and not others. And what gives you the right to determine the correct pension correction-what was your basis, knowledge of the man or matter. I pay good money for good journalism to support my decisions. Next time do some good old fashioned spade work rather than getting dragged into a foreign issue that you have badly, or frankly could not have had the time to research, because its suits your UK bankers renumeration agenda. And think your conclusion through. Poor to lazy journalism me thinks and not the type I pay good money for to support my business decisions....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment to FT editor on &#8220;Dublin&#8217;s shame&#8221;-</p>
<p>What a poor article and an editorial at that. Whilst I fully agree with the editorials general thrust it displays a typical lack of local understanding about Irish issues, the real facts, the differences with the UK. It ignores the collective responsibility in Eire that contributed to these issues. It lays the accusers, and not just the attempt at a sound bite from AIB&#8217;s new puppet like CEO (who I recollect readily dished out big pensions in his investment banking past and then not a peep about retrieval) in this matter bare to hypocritical. For instance, how come you didn&#8217;t bring out the current scandal about their PM being paid more than ours, Merkel, Holland etc? That despite the arrival of the Troika who are swanning it in Dublin&#8217;s best restaurants etc the politicians have just paid themselves outrageous pensions, perks etc and which is a current scandal ! That old Anglo Irish bank are back to their old tricks paying enormous salaries again-Their CEO&#8217;s perks and pensions in 2010 were greater than the PM&#8217;s salary-another front page scandal but ignored by you! That Bank of Ireland gave the two fingers !! That those public servants involved in this crisis have not been targeted and continue to languish. And your argument ignores the legal differences, the individuals rights, the moral issue of trying to single one section and not others. And what gives you the right to determine the correct pension correction-what was your basis, knowledge of the man or matter. I pay good money for good journalism to support my decisions. Next time do some good old fashioned spade work rather than getting dragged into a foreign issue that you have badly, or frankly could not have had the time to research, because its suits your UK bankers renumeration agenda. And think your conclusion through. Poor to lazy journalism me thinks and not the type I pay good money for to support my business decisions&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://namawinelake.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/banking-sector-paycuts-are-just-for-paddies/#comment-45996</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Minister Noonan could always apply a marginal 100% Universal Social Charge for *all* remuneration above 500k if he wanted - for all public servants, civil servants and bodies over which the government has more than a 50% control.  Salaries given could be as high as they like, but anything above 500k would just go straight to the exchequer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minister Noonan could always apply a marginal 100% Universal Social Charge for *all* remuneration above 500k if he wanted &#8211; for all public servants, civil servants and bodies over which the government has more than a 50% control.  Salaries given could be as high as they like, but anything above 500k would just go straight to the exchequer.</p>
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		<title>By: OMF</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OMF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;4. Was the pre-Elderfield head of Financial Regulation an Irish fellow? Perhaps we could have him back if he offers to underbid Elderfield’s remuneration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Halloween is over! Don&#039;t be giving people a fright like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>4. Was the pre-Elderfield head of Financial Regulation an Irish fellow? Perhaps we could have him back if he offers to underbid Elderfield’s remuneration.</p></blockquote>
<p>Halloween is over! Don&#8217;t be giving people a fright like that.</p>
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		<title>By: otto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[otto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Is there any indication that the NAMA salary cuts were 100% Irish? If not, your schema collapses. Just as with the IBRC point, in reverse, made by OMF.
2. &quot;And they might say, why should they offer pay-cuts, they’re not Irish and not expected to put on the “Green Jersey” but if the evidence is that Irish peers will accept paycuts in a sector which is largely controlled by Minister Noonan, then maybe we should be seeking personnel changes.&quot; Irish &quot;peers&quot; will accept paycuts because they have fewer alternatives. In universities too, as pay has been cut, non-Irish staff have left - in a university department I know well, ALL the non-Irish staff who were here pre-crisis have left. Yes the Irish &quot;peers&quot; are accepting paycuts, but that does not mean that quality is being maintained. Rather, the reverse. 
3. I think Honohan&#039;s pre-CB salary as a TCD professor was lower than Elderfield&#039;s pre-CB salary as a Financial Regulator. If so, Honohan was arguably handsomely overpaid in the first place in terms of the money required to induce him to do the job.
4. Was the pre-Elderfield head of Financial Regulation an Irish fellow? Perhaps we could have him back if he offers to underbid Elderfield&#039;s remuneration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Is there any indication that the NAMA salary cuts were 100% Irish? If not, your schema collapses. Just as with the IBRC point, in reverse, made by OMF.<br />
2. &#8220;And they might say, why should they offer pay-cuts, they’re not Irish and not expected to put on the “Green Jersey” but if the evidence is that Irish peers will accept paycuts in a sector which is largely controlled by Minister Noonan, then maybe we should be seeking personnel changes.&#8221; Irish &#8220;peers&#8221; will accept paycuts because they have fewer alternatives. In universities too, as pay has been cut, non-Irish staff have left &#8211; in a university department I know well, ALL the non-Irish staff who were here pre-crisis have left. Yes the Irish &#8220;peers&#8221; are accepting paycuts, but that does not mean that quality is being maintained. Rather, the reverse.<br />
3. I think Honohan&#8217;s pre-CB salary as a TCD professor was lower than Elderfield&#8217;s pre-CB salary as a Financial Regulator. If so, Honohan was arguably handsomely overpaid in the first place in terms of the money required to induce him to do the job.<br />
4. Was the pre-Elderfield head of Financial Regulation an Irish fellow? Perhaps we could have him back if he offers to underbid Elderfield&#8217;s remuneration.</p>
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		<title>By: john gallaher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john gallaher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bit of a conundrum,on one hand they are negotiating/structuring very large complex transactions.
If they cant negotiate &#039;good&#039; salaries/packages or get a &#039;bad&#039; deal do you want them,patriotic duty or expecting altruistic experts to apply is not viable.Executives should have skin in the game.
The metrics are all wrong &#039;pay&#039; should be performance related and back end loaded.Split the spoils,if there are none,tough you lost.

Guarantying salaries at NAMA creates inertia,just sit on the file and don&#039;t break anything,the level of hand holding is ludicrous.
Remuneration in commercial RE should always be based on eat what you kill,their should have upside but also downside.
Hence the preponderance for Vatican level secrecy and off market deals,legions of advisers,paper the file and cover your ass..but,but we had a &#039;valuation&#039; done..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit of a conundrum,on one hand they are negotiating/structuring very large complex transactions.<br />
If they cant negotiate &#8216;good&#8217; salaries/packages or get a &#8216;bad&#8217; deal do you want them,patriotic duty or expecting altruistic experts to apply is not viable.Executives should have skin in the game.<br />
The metrics are all wrong &#8216;pay&#8217; should be performance related and back end loaded.Split the spoils,if there are none,tough you lost.</p>
<p>Guarantying salaries at NAMA creates inertia,just sit on the file and don&#8217;t break anything,the level of hand holding is ludicrous.<br />
Remuneration in commercial RE should always be based on eat what you kill,their should have upside but also downside.<br />
Hence the preponderance for Vatican level secrecy and off market deals,legions of advisers,paper the file and cover your ass..but,but we had a &#8216;valuation&#8217; done..</p>
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		<title>By: OMF</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OMF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The split you&#039;re highlighting here is really a public-sector/private-sector split. The &quot;Irish&quot; executives mentions, with the possible exception of Dukes, are all public servants.

The &quot;Non-Irish&quot; executives are nominally in the so called &quot;private sector&quot;.

Besides, you&#039;re only looking at the top level employess and board members here. The super-salary rot goes on down a few layers of the management chain in most of these places. Here&#039;s the report from the Irish Examiner in the case of IBRC

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Moreover, there are: 12 employees on packages of between €300,000 and €399,000; 24 on packages between €200,000 and €299,000; 44 on packages between €150,000 and €199,000; 146 on packages of between €100,000 and €149,000; and 774 of IBRC’s staff across Ireland and the UK are earning up to €99,000 a year. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I doubt you&#039;d make a Commonwealth company out of this lot. I suspect there are a lot more Paddies, Fionns and Saoirses as you move down the ranks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The split you&#8217;re highlighting here is really a public-sector/private-sector split. The &#8220;Irish&#8221; executives mentions, with the possible exception of Dukes, are all public servants.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Non-Irish&#8221; executives are nominally in the so called &#8220;private sector&#8221;.</p>
<p>Besides, you&#8217;re only looking at the top level employess and board members here. The super-salary rot goes on down a few layers of the management chain in most of these places. Here&#8217;s the report from the Irish Examiner in the case of IBRC</p>
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Moreover, there are: 12 employees on packages of between €300,000 and €399,000; 24 on packages between €200,000 and €299,000; 44 on packages between €150,000 and €199,000; 146 on packages of between €100,000 and €149,000; and 774 of IBRC’s staff across Ireland and the UK are earning up to €99,000 a year.
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<p>I doubt you&#8217;d make a Commonwealth company out of this lot. I suspect there are a lot more Paddies, Fionns and Saoirses as you move down the ranks.</p>
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		<title>By: Howya</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Howya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there is a practical reason for the different responses tp pay reductions - the &quot;Irish&quot; executives expect to stay and be rewarded in the long term with plum appointments, while the &quot;non-Irish&quot; expect to move on to another country for the next job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a practical reason for the different responses tp pay reductions &#8211; the &#8220;Irish&#8221; executives expect to stay and be rewarded in the long term with plum appointments, while the &#8220;non-Irish&#8221; expect to move on to another country for the next job.</p>
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